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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j8lh5b2 wrote

Reply to comment by buried_lede in Sandy Hook Survivor Survives Second Mass Shooting by midmodmad

Sure. Head on over to r/dgu and read up on how many times an “assault weapon” is used by law abiding citizens against home intruders or robberies or in instances of self defense.

The problem with the “advocacy groups” you’re mentioning is they are heavily antigun and are quite biased. DOJ and BOJ are saying baseball bats, hammers, knives and then handguns are the leading weapons used in assaults or murders. Hardly any data on assault weapons. And according to the CDC more than 60% of gun related deaths are suicides. How does an assault weapon ban help in these cases?

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buried_lede t1_j8lhn7f wrote

Oh F off, tutoring me on BJS and DOJ’s opinions. The stats are there and you’re full of it

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j8liekw wrote

firearms section 77.2% of mass shootings done with handguns, 22.8% with assault rifles

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More than half of gun owners in California die by suicide

more than half of gun deaths are by suicide source: CDC

The original assault weapon ban didn’t even lower violence rates source

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buried_lede t1_j8ljiaq wrote

Semi automatic weapons and large magazines. Studies of mass shootings found an impact, but existing weapons in the category were grandfathered in and there were other loopholes, then it sunset after only 10 years. We need to pass it again with stricter provisions and enforcement.

I’m tired of the idiots constantly insisting that gun control doesn’t get guns off the streets. Every country that has done it says otherwise and it’s obvious that it would. Will some guns still float around? yeah, big difference though.

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j8ljy2u wrote

Thanks for not taking a single look at any of the links I provided and instead going back in circles.

There’s over 500 million guns in circulation in the United States. Legally registered. If we counted all of the “illegal” guns, being sold to gangs and criminals, there’s probably close to double that number.

If America were to ban guns and get rid of 500 million of them. There would still be hundreds of millions of guns in the hands of gangs and criminals and psychopaths. Violence would increase especially in cities.

In 2021 there were 42,000 gun deaths and 117 of them were mass shootings and 29,000 were suicides. That means there’s almost 13,000 MURDERS. Murders. In cities, likely to gang violence.

The “every country has done it” rhetoric is getting old. Move there then? Lol

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buried_lede t1_j8lmwk0 wrote

Fuck yourself, really. You guys don’t care about life. You literally get on your soapbox on every post about victims. Gun posts aren’t enough, you need to make your points over People’s graves and hospital beds too. All about you and your guns. Always know more than everyone else, always sure that nothing will help. Always a thousand self-serving, self-centered arguments that don’t impress anyone - they are dripping with denial. Like: there are more gun suicides than mass shootings. So what? I’m not leaving the country for you either, but thanks for the suggestion. Cute.

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