augustulus1 t1_jczev8w wrote on March 20, 2023 at 6:48 PM

Reply to comment by Longjumping-Tie-7573 in What jobs cannot be done by machines? by Spirited-Meringue829

Nope. Definition of 'handcrafted' by Cambridge Dictionary: made using the hands rather than a machine. Machines can't do handcrafted items, just randomized factory items.

Longjumping-Tie-7573 t1_jd026hm wrote on March 20, 2023 at 9:18 PM

Yeah, 'AI doesn't meet the semantics of having actual meat hands' isn't the argument you're thinking it is, mate.

ESPECIALLY when that argument really ends with 'yet'.

augustulus1 t1_jd35mwm wrote on March 21, 2023 at 2:38 PM

If somebody wants to buy a specific human made item, he or she wouldn't be satisfied by a perfect machine made replica, right? For example, if I want an original Salvador Dali painting on my wall, I won't buy a replica, however perfect it is, and however it seems to be a mere semantic question.

Longjumping-Tie-7573 t1_jdv3jb6 wrote on March 27, 2023 at 12:44 PM

And I'm telling you there's already a point - for some products - where you as a consumer already can't tell the difference and the only difference you're choosing between is what you're told about the product and not the product itself. With continued advancement of AI and robotic manufacturing there will absolutely be a point where being told it's hand-made will be the only way you'd know.

So what are you gonna do when nobody tells you?

And frankly, your example of a Dali painting is a laughably bad example since the art world is absolutely cancerous with fakes that aren't even made with the exactitude robots can achieve. Just by bringing that example up you're abandoning your entire argument, so far as I'm seeing.

augustulus1 t1_jdv9y95 wrote on March 27, 2023 at 1:37 PM

"So what are you gonna do when nobody tells you?"

I would ask if it is original or not.

Are you aware that you are apologetic towards criminal behavior? The law must pursue this kind of fraudulent activity and advanced AI will provide a very potent and powerful tool for this. I am absolutely sure there will be AI-powered detectors, which will be able to tell if an item is original or not.

Enough_Island4615 t1_jd078cv wrote on March 20, 2023 at 9:51 PM

Nope. It's moot. AI will be authoring the Cambridge Dictionary.

augustulus1 t1_jd34o0e wrote on March 21, 2023 at 2:31 PM

It doesn't matter, because the definition is universal, not depending on dictionaries.

Enough_Island4615 t1_jd3thwt wrote on March 21, 2023 at 5:13 PM

Nope. There is nothing intrinsic about a definition.

augustulus1 t1_jd4kmck wrote on March 21, 2023 at 8:04 PM

Yes, there is. Even if you alter the definition, the same time it splits into two concepts. If you change the meaning of "handcrafted" into something like "created randomly either by machines or humans", you just create an other concept. So, now you have a category of "handcrafted items" which has two subcategories: machine made and man made. The latter obviously can't be produced by machines.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat this action, because every time a new definition will be born. It's not possible to erase a concept from existence, therefor there will always be stuffs which, by definition, can't be made by machines.