Submitted by ethereal3xp t3_126m6ej in Futurology
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ethereal3xp OP t1_jeachdk wrote
Yup
What is wrong with continuing to utilize Apple/Google pay via phone tap?
DigMeTX t1_jeadsnc wrote
Exactly. Works great and pretty much just as quick.
DungeonicGushing t1_jec0lh6 wrote
I literally can’t think of a reason why phones aren’t still the favorite way to spy on us. Why this shift to palms?
DezedAndConfused t1_jebijr3 wrote
You don't actually touch the device. You hover your hand over it a few inches. But yeah, privacy concerns are real.
TheMadShatterP00P t1_je9v3ot wrote
Panera serves overpriced hospital food. Change my mind.
idontsmokeheroin t1_jea2cru wrote
I won’t, because I completely agree with you and the place sucks.
TheMadShatterP00P t1_jea44ul wrote
I'd expect this sort of coherent reply from someone who doesn't smoke heroin. Thank you.
btspman1 t1_jeb9xpr wrote
My kids like Panera. They also like hospital food. Checks out!
HumpieDouglas t1_jebhztr wrote
Wow that's fucking savage. True, but savage.
VirtualMoneyLover t1_jea66ee wrote
Yummee hospital food. Irrelevant to the discussion.
ethereal3xp OP t1_jeabxzx wrote
Their ice chai latte with soy milk is very good 👍
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deformedexile t1_jeaiu0i wrote
biometrics are so silly, the QR code reader on the bus can't even identify the bus pass displayed on my phone a quarter of the time, brittle bullshit gee wizardry
btspman1 t1_jeb9qdu wrote
Because it’s so hard to hover a card over a scanner. 🤦🏻♂️
RaceHard t1_jebgjwu wrote
This thread tells me none of you understand at all how this biometric tech works.
1st the health concerns:
Palm reading systems are most likely vein pattern readers. They do not need a surface to be touched and can read from about 6 inches away. Making them touch less.
Second the way these systems work, they scan a pattern assign a number to it and then when checking again they only verify the number. At no point do they store what your hand looks like. The storage for that would be massive and worthless. It makes no sense at all from a technical point.
And even less sense to sell as data. What they could make more money on is selling your account payment information in correlation to the where, when, and what you got. Which they can and most certainly already do. Because there are no laws saying they can't.
DezedAndConfused t1_jebj209 wrote
Thank you! This tech has been used in banking and healthcare for years now, two industries with a vested interest in customer privacy.
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ZestySaltShaker t1_jebm5pf wrote
Um, no. Won’t use it, don’t want it. We barely shop at Panera anymore because they can’t get our orders right, always something missing, this will cause our family to stop altogether.
ethereal3xp OP t1_je9oeve wrote
>Bakery is first restaurant chain to use Amazon One biometric technology, which faces scrutiny from lawmakers and activists
>The US bakery and cafe chain Panera will soon allow customers to pay with the swipe of a palm, marking the first restaurant chain to implement the new technology and raising alarm among privacy advocates.
The company announced last week it would roll out biometric readers in coming months that will allow customers to access credit card and loyalty account information by scanning their palms. Called Amazon One, the system was developed by Amazon and is in use at some airports, stadiums and Whole Foods grocery stores.
Panera, which has more than 2,000 locations across the country, is the first nationwide restaurant chain to use the tool. Through the new program, visitors will scan their palms to be greeted by name and receive customized order recommendations based on past preferences. They will also be able to pay with the palm-scanning tech.
Amazon One’s expansion into non-Amazon facilities has faced widespread scrutiny. In 2021, Denver Arts & Venues dropped plans to use palm-scanning technology for ticketless entry at concerts in Red Rocks Amphitheater in Denver after opposition from the digital rights group Fight for the Future.
“The marginal-at-best convenience of scanning a hand instead of a ticket is no excuse for implementing technology that will exacerbate violent systems and cause immeasurable harm,” the group said.
Panera did not specify where the technology would be available but said it had already been deployed at a number of bakery-cafes in St Louis, Missouri, where the company is based. Panera’s loyalty program includes about 52 million members.
Amazon launched its palm-reading technology at Amazon Go locations in late 2020, and is now facing a lawsuit relating to privacy violations after a shopper in New York City claimed customers were not properly notified such data would be collected.
Privacy advocates say this data is at high risk of being hacked and stolen, and, unlike passwords, cannot be changed after it is compromised. Lawmakers have raised these concerns with Amazon One in the past. In 2021, Senators Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, and Jon Ossoff of Georgia demanded additional information about the program.
“Amazon’s expansion of biometric data collection through Amazon One raises serious questions about Amazon’s plans for this data and its respect for user privacy, including about how Amazon may use the data for advertising and tracking purposes,” the senators wrote at the time.
Amazon and Panera did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
FuturologyBot t1_je9sesz wrote
The following submission statement was provided by /u/ethereal3xp:
>Bakery is first restaurant chain to use Amazon One biometric technology, which faces scrutiny from lawmakers and activists
>The US bakery and cafe chain Panera will soon allow customers to pay with the swipe of a palm, marking the first restaurant chain to implement the new technology and raising alarm among privacy advocates.
The company announced last week it would roll out biometric readers in coming months that will allow customers to access credit card and loyalty account information by scanning their palms. Called Amazon One, the system was developed by Amazon and is in use at some airports, stadiums and Whole Foods grocery stores.
Panera, which has more than 2,000 locations across the country, is the first nationwide restaurant chain to use the tool. Through the new program, visitors will scan their palms to be greeted by name and receive customized order recommendations based on past preferences. They will also be able to pay with the palm-scanning tech.
Amazon One’s expansion into non-Amazon facilities has faced widespread scrutiny. In 2021, Denver Arts & Venues dropped plans to use palm-scanning technology for ticketless entry at concerts in Red Rocks Amphitheater in Denver after opposition from the digital rights group Fight for the Future.
“The marginal-at-best convenience of scanning a hand instead of a ticket is no excuse for implementing technology that will exacerbate violent systems and cause immeasurable harm,” the group said.
Panera did not specify where the technology would be available but said it had already been deployed at a number of bakery-cafes in St Louis, Missouri, where the company is based. Panera’s loyalty program includes about 52 million members.
Amazon launched its palm-reading technology at Amazon Go locations in late 2020, and is now facing a lawsuit relating to privacy violations after a shopper in New York City claimed customers were not properly notified such data would be collected.
Privacy advocates say this data is at high risk of being hacked and stolen, and, unlike passwords, cannot be changed after it is compromised. Lawmakers have raised these concerns with Amazon One in the past. In 2021, Senators Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, and Jon Ossoff of Georgia demanded additional information about the program.
“Amazon’s expansion of biometric data collection through Amazon One raises serious questions about Amazon’s plans for this data and its respect for user privacy, including about how Amazon may use the data for advertising and tracking purposes,” the senators wrote at the time.
Amazon and Panera did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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Heightren t1_jebt58z wrote
I was confused as to why a company that sounds to be about food wanted to acquire technlogy about bogus fortune telling
1ndomitablespirit t1_jec4d2f wrote
Are we really in so much of a hurry? I get that it is annoying when someone pays slowly and you're in a line, but this is crazy.
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Indianirvana t1_jegj1sb wrote
In India we literally have to use our fingerprints to even get mobile phone SIM cards . This sort of tech is prevalent all over the world .
DigMeTX t1_je9tggr wrote
Nobody wants this shit. Aside from the privacy concerns who the hell wants to put their hand flat on a grimy, germy surface that everyone else has put their hand on?? When you’re about to eat, no less.