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Surur t1_ixml5ci wrote

Tony Seba has a recent series about this, and he said that precision fermentation will make animal farming and its supporting agriculture obsolete, freeing up 2.7 billion hectares of farming land for other uses such as habitation.

Combines with the renewable energy revolution, he believes the Great Transformation will deliver the American dream of cheap land, cheap energy, cheap food and cheap connectivity for only $250 per month, making poverty a societal choice.

It will also massively slash our carbon footprint by 95% in the 2030s and make us carbon negative in the 2040s.

See those episodes at the links here.

The Great Transformation [Part 4] - The #Disruption of #Food & #Agriculture

The Great Transformation [Part 5] - The conclusion

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tim_b_er OP t1_ixmm650 wrote

That is a very interesting theory. Is the problem now that there isn't enough cheap land to build on? Building brand new expanded cities would be a significant undertaking that would span more than two decades, but I love the concept.

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Surur t1_ixmopca wrote

Well, solar will mean decentralized power, so it would be more like homesteading than building cities.

The more land you have, the fewer utilities you need. You could easily live off-grid.

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tim_b_er OP t1_ixmipam wrote

Excerpt: It may sound like science fiction, but the techniques being used to cultivate lab-grown meat are actually pretty similar to production methods we’ve already been using for centuries. “Making beer is actually cell agriculture.” says Luining. “You’re using an organism for beer. This is yeast, and you’re feeding it hops and grains to create another product. And this is exactly what we’re doing.”

I am incredibly fascinated by this area of research. My thesis is that it will catch on far quicker than most people assume. It will definitely be a rocky transition in culture, habits, and societal acceptance, but it is becoming clear that lab grown meat is on the pathway to becoming commercially viable. Likely beginning with high end product offerings at restaurants (a Michelin-starred chef has already teamed up with a cultured meat company), and then going down market to provide alternatives to every major traditional animal product.

Personally, my passion is in researching and investing in the companies that I believe have the best chance at playing a significant role in this movement. There are very few options, and this isn't the sub to discuss them in. But if anyone wants to discuss that aspect please do message me, I'd welcome the conversation.

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FuturologyBot t1_ixmmw72 wrote

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Excerpt: It may sound like science fiction, but the techniques being used to cultivate lab-grown meat are actually pretty similar to production methods we’ve already been using for centuries. “Making beer is actually cell agriculture.” says Luining. “You’re using an organism for beer. This is yeast, and you’re feeding it hops and grains to create another product. And this is exactly what we’re doing.”

I am incredibly fascinated by this area of research. My thesis is that it will catch on far quicker than most people assume. It will definitely be a rocky transition in culture, habits, and societal acceptance, but it is becoming clear that lab grown meat is on the pathway to becoming commercially viable. Likely beginning with high end product offerings at restaurants (a Michelin-starred chef has already teamed up with a cultured meat company), and then going down market to provide alternatives to every major traditional animal product.

Personally, my passion is in researching and investing in the companies that I believe have the best chance at playing a significant role in this movement. There are very few options, and this isn't the sub to discuss them in. But if anyone wants to discuss that aspect please do message me, I'd welcome the conversation.


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michigician t1_ixqihhd wrote

What are the inputs to produce synthetic meat? Soybeans? Wheat?

What will the implications be for regions where cattle production is the main economic activity?

Will synthetic meat be designed to be a healthy food using medical scientific research to maximize dietary benefits, or will the marketing of the product be used to maximize consumption and profit regardless of negative effects on consumers?

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tim_b_er OP t1_ixqlt58 wrote

this is one of the most common misconceptions. Many assume that lab grown meat involves some sort of plant based input, the use of insects, or novel chemicals.

Here is how it actually works: https://new-harvest.org/what-is-cellular-agriculture/

TLDR: cells are taken from a real animal, and put in a bioreactor tank (similar to brewing beer) with culture media to feed the cells and have them replicate in the same molecular chemical reactions that would occur within an animal.

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michigician t1_ixrz0a2 wrote

Thanks. So to grow meat in cellular agriculture requires sugars of some kind?

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