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Real_antichrist t1_iqrcfui wrote

Reply to comment by kovid2020 in What do people on this sub think about the Maine Communist Party by [deleted]

I don’t know but millions didn’t starved to death in the streets under it

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Gayasskat t1_iqrd3vt wrote

Yes they have lmao just not in America

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New-Work-139 t1_iqrde6p wrote

Where have millions of people starved under capitalism?

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Gayasskat t1_iqretu0 wrote

The Irish famine, Indians during ww2 where all their food was exported out in order to feed the soldiers of the richer countries. Pretty much any third world country where people die of hunger are the determined losers of capitalism decided over years of colonialism and taking resources and people to bring riches to the more successful countries with more capital. The great depression and the dustbowl in America were caused entirely / greatly worsened by capitalism.

Communism has had horrible blights by horrible people but to suggest these things don't happen under capitalism is lying to yourself at best

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Cranky_And_Old t1_iqrff7q wrote

The Irish famine was literally caused by a Monarchy and repeated laws discriminating against the Irish, set forth by the Monarchy, not by the economic system

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Gayasskat t1_iqrfjxw wrote

What economic system was the monarchy using. Would it have made a difference if a parliament decided it instead of the monarchy

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Cranky_And_Old t1_iqrfu46 wrote

No, it wouldn’t have made a difference if Parliament had decided it, because of high anti-Irish sentiment held by the English government in general at the time. This is a false equivalence

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Gayasskat t1_iqrfy93 wrote

I think you're failing to see a bigger picture. And that's still 3 words out of everything I said

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Kiddie_Kleen t1_iqrnya2 wrote

I mean we can say the same thing about people starving under communism? It’s not actually bc of communism is bc they were having a famine nothing to do with the economic system

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New-Work-139 t1_iqrzmq4 wrote

That wasn’t capitalism though. The country was literally half owned by a company (the East India company). That is not capitalism, it was colonial corporatism. It’s a completely different system of political economics. There was little to no competition and all corporate enterprises were state funded and subsidized. Same thing in Ireland.

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Kiddie_Kleen t1_iqsaplx wrote

Oh here we go with the “that’s not true capitalism it’s corporatism” that be like me saying “that’s not true communism that’s socialism” when talking about the USSR

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New-Work-139 t1_iqsb8m3 wrote

I can understand how it might be misleading as the words sound similar, but corporatism is deeply anti-capitalist and on the whole just as much so as is socialism. So, I’m sorry, but your comparison is really a poor one and I’d encourage you to read up on the differences as you might find it changes your political persuasions.

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Kiddie_Kleen t1_iqrnrtl wrote

How about the millions of people starving right now due to capitalism?

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