Submitted by First-Onion-1026 t3_z5mzh2 in Pennsylvania

So I received a job offer in Pennsylvania. It’s a big step up for me but requires residency in the state. I’m just over the border in Delaware. If I sneeze hard enough in my back yard I’m in PA.

I found out about filling out PSD/EIT for the job. Before I decide where to move, where can I find the cheapest PSD/EIT areas? Does it vary by town or county, etc.? What’s the impact on income?

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bitterbeerfaces t1_ixxk3ah wrote

Lancaster County isn't bad. But you also pay for what you get. Want to be in the middle of nowhere in the mountains- check out Somerset/Laurel Highlands. Want to live in a population with a College education? Try the Philly 'burbs. Going for the cute town - Hershey and Litiz are great. Want to be around rednecks in trailer parks?- throw a dart at the center of the state and have at it.

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dherrmann t1_ixwyy3g wrote

It varies by township and school district. I think I pay 1.5% in West Pikeland Twp. That’s pretty standard. Half goes to the township and half to the school district here.

I also pay a lot in school property taxes. Again - typical.

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dherrmann t1_ixwz54a wrote

I’d pick the best place for your life. These taxes shouldn’t influence your decision.

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elefantsblue t1_ixx1qkr wrote

I’m looking for the lowest taxes in the state as well. I’m sick of having my money stolen from me every week so they can give corporate subsidies giant fossil fuel companies.

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SwissyVictory t1_ixxllli wrote

If you're looking at the lowest tax in the state you're looking at the difference in local taxes.

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Except maybe Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, nobody is giving your tax dollars to corporate subsidies or giant fossil fuel companies. Its going to schools, and the other things in your community.

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elefantsblue t1_ixxn2uu wrote

I can’t change how much I pay the state, but I can control how much I pay to the inept local governments.

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SwissyVictory t1_ixxxrfn wrote

You can change what state you live in equally as easily as picking the lowest local taxes. Some of the bordering states are probally closer too.

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0OOOOOOOOO0 t1_ixx3am1 wrote

My family left PA and we’re saving $1K per month in taxes. We still visit but a lot of our favorite places didn’t survive covid.

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elefantsblue t1_ixx3gip wrote

Where’d you move to?

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0OOOOOOOOO0 t1_ixx3mw1 wrote

Florida

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dherrmann t1_ixx68w8 wrote

Good Luck

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0OOOOOOOOO0 t1_ixx6h16 wrote

Thanks, it’s pretty hot sometimes but I can go North for those months. You certainly see some interesting folks around.

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Quicklyquigly t1_ixxkwrb wrote

But don’t you just pay more in home insurance?

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0OOOOOOOOO0 t1_ixykns3 wrote

Home insurance is $1496 annually

Not sure what it runs in PA because I was renting there

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your_late t1_ixxh1bx wrote

That 0.5 percent savings on cost of living though

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twohoundtown t1_ixxtezk wrote

Oh, and you no longer have state income tax either! I miss FL taxes.

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dherrmann t1_ixx67jl wrote

The local tax pays for local police and other township stuff.

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elefantsblue t1_ixxbk7j wrote

Sorry, I should have also said I was uncomfortable with it going to the overpaid gunslingers masquerading as public service too.

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dherrmann t1_ixwz1cn wrote

Whatever you do, stay out of Philadelphia. They have a 5% income tax

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avo_cado t1_ixx2slq wrote

Yes, if the wage tax scares you, please stay out

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dherrmann t1_ixx64bn wrote

Don’t agree. I moved here from Oregon and the concept of local income tax was completely foreign to me. It was a big concern back then, mostly because of the unknown

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IamSauerKraut t1_ixxailz wrote

PA has all these stupid nuisance taxes.

The further you move from Philly, the lower the EIT. And the lower the property taxes for schools/muni/county.

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dherrmann t1_ixxde8o wrote

And often, poorer public schools and low quality municipal services

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waffle-pie t1_ixxh9fi wrote

As a Philly resident, our public schools and municipal services have some improving to do.

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IamSauerKraut t1_ixxdwxg wrote

Not true, actually. It's not all trailers and outhouses out here.

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Super_C_Complex t1_ixya6dm wrote

No but you certainly do not find the same level of services further out.

Though there are counties that have somewhat decent services but those are often paid for by a democratic city in the center being leeched off of by the suburban and rural drains

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IamSauerKraut t1_ixywcuz wrote

So what?

We also have less traffic and fewer sewer smells. Less crime, too.

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Super_C_Complex t1_ixyye8q wrote

So fun fact. I have dealt with PSP quite a bit in rural areas.

They're real bad at their job.

I can think of multiple murders they labeled as accidents to avoid reporting them. Multiple.

Rural pa is statically more dangerous than Philly you just don't know it.

And traffic? Who the fuck cares. Just give me a mass transit system

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IamSauerKraut t1_ixz03s3 wrote

>They're real bad at they're job.

And you are real bad at basic English.

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Super_C_Complex t1_ixz0nly wrote

Balls.

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IamSauerKraut t1_ixz3bmx wrote

>I can think of multiple murders they labeled as accidents to avoid reporting them. Multiple.

Ratshit.

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Super_C_Complex t1_ixzpm9q wrote

I can think of 3 instances where people were murdered and the police let it go as an accident because they knew they were involved in drugs and see it as no loss

That's 3 in one year in a county of less than 50k.

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dherrmann t1_ixyyeut wrote

Absolutely understand. I was thinking about my high schools day up near Buffalo, NY. I went to a Catholic HS, and we had one calc teacher, one chemistry teacher, one AP English teacher, etc.

The local school district had about 5 of each, and a student could pick the teacher that worked best for them.

That's all I meant - better choice in a larger district.

And I get the benefits - I live in Chester County in an area that was semi-rural, but the McMansions have taken over (almost zero regional planning). I spend more time driving west and NW to Lancaster and Berks counties than I spend driving toward Philly! (But Philly does have world-class medical facilities and doctors)

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IamSauerKraut t1_ixz0y2q wrote

PennMedicine has its tentacles all the way into the western suburbs of Harrisburg. And some of the largest high schools in PA are in... central PA. I believe Reading HS has long been the largest and McCaskey is at #3 or 4. McMansions are out this way, too. Some even built by Toll Bros. Please take back your townhome cluster jobs; they suck.

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rovinchick t1_ixxbnuk wrote

This is a few years old, but if you scroll to the bottom of the chart, there is an excel file download with all of the PA local income tax rates.

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First-Onion-1026 OP t1_ixxdzus wrote

This is awesome. I’ll take a look into it more tomorrow when I can dive in. Thanks!

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Castor_and_Pollux123 t1_ixxgrin wrote

Pennsylvania is a big state. Where is your job offer located?

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thisoldbroad t1_ixxajbd wrote

And don't forget our 6% sales tax.

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rovinchick t1_ixxb5z8 wrote

8% in Philadelphia, so again, stay away from Philly 🤣

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-TheFalcon- t1_ixxaz8s wrote

Whatever you do don't move to Chester County. High taxes and surrounded by complete morons.

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DesignSilver1274 t1_ixxo31a wrote

Morons? I moved from Chester County to Lancaster County...talk about morons...

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Allemaengel t1_ixyu9my wrote

Amateurs.

Anywhere north of the Lehigh Tunnel in NEPA where I live asks you to gladly hold their beer, lol.

You guys have no idea how bizarre the Coal Region (the Skook, anyone?) and the Poconos are.

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--Cr1imsoN-- t1_ixykte4 wrote

And I took that personally

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DesignSilver1274 t1_ixysa3w wrote

Trump, Mastriano, and Covid is just like the flu...sorry about that.

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--Cr1imsoN-- t1_ixyslcq wrote

Ain’t it the truth. So happy all 3 of them lost. Trump didn’t win in 2020. Mastrino didn’t win in 2022 and Covid hasn’t wiped out humanity. The 3 losers.

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bitterbeerfaces t1_ixxjq1r wrote

Really? I love Chester County. Well the suburban parts anyway. I won't go near Kennett square or Nottingham.

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No_Mission1856 t1_iy1cg1s wrote

As long as you stay away from all PA cities, their suburbs, and towns you'll be okay. 1-2% income tax, much less school taxes, and fewer regulations. I grew up 10mins from Philly it was all countryside. It's all developed now with track housing and shopping centers. Has high taxes and regulates everything but wiping you behind. The cities & towns also can add unseen fees to your utilities now for added profit. Spent 30yrs of my life moving west of where I grew up. Now the last place it's started.

So after 48 yrs of living in PA I finally had to leave. I certainly miss what once was everything I loved is pretty much gone there except a few things. But I don't miss the taxes for everything, the regulations on everything.

Where I'm at now there is no tax except property tax and it's not too bad and like PA used to be my property has a unrestricted deed. I can do whatever I want on my property whenever I want. I am literally regulation free on my land.

Another bonus I have the nicest neighbors I've had in 40 yrs and it's a real community here. We all wave to each other on the road, stop if you or someone else is on the side of the road. Every car that passes my house they wave and I wave back.

Pennsylvania was like that once upon a time............

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Signal-Maize309 t1_ixyvg2e wrote

You’d have to look at rural, republican areas in PA to find what you’re looking for. I mean, if you want low taxes. If you’re looking for areas that don’t support corporations or fossil fuels or police protection, you’ll need to pay more for democratic legislation, such as low income housing, welfare, and schools and live in higher crime areas.

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