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matchstick_s t1_iv09vpq wrote

Radiolab did a great podcast episode about this - it's actually not very applicable at all! Little known fact is, the five stages model was designed not as a model of grieving for a loved one at all, even though it was then largely misrepresented as such. They actually refer to how their creator, Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, described what people close to death experience when facing their own mortality and how they grieve about their own upcoming loss.

Here's a link for those interested: Radiolab - The Queen of Dying

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cryptotope t1_iv0wg7j wrote

>Radiolab did a great podcast episode about this

And once you listen to that episode, go ahead and listen to pretty much their entire back catalog of episodes. It's all really good, really well-produced stuff.

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uniace16 t1_iv1bg7k wrote

RadioLab has great content but the nonstop sound effects are grating and make it hard for me to listen to.

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smokingloonth t1_iv1gylc wrote

I feel the same way after listening to them again after many years off. I really enjoy Stuff You Should Know now. They're great!

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meme_streak t1_iv32w1r wrote

The problem is that one of the creators and hosts does the sound effects as a hobby.

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Grinagh t1_iv123ng wrote

Yeah, we all muse about not knowing how much time any of us have, but when it's spelled out by a doctor, suddenly the tragedy hits home and people breakdown because, "how could this happen to them!"

PS the same 5 stages are felt when you have no tp in a public bathroom

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victorywulf t1_iv0odp6 wrote

i love that this was the first comment i saw because i came here to recommend that episode!

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JoshKerwinMusic t1_iv0tiu7 wrote

Beat me to it. This is a must listen podcast, not only episode but series in general.

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beleaguered_penguin t1_iv64k1a wrote

> described what people close to death experience when facing their own mortality and how they grieve about their own upcoming loss.

Having gone through some scary medical issues - not life threatening but potentially severely shortening my life expectancy - I do agree and I went through them all

Denial: It's probably because I do <X> and not an actual underlying issue (I was wrong...)

Anger: Why has the NHS failed me and let me get to this stage? Why aren't the doctors doing anything (I complained to my GP at this point about the hospital treatment)

Bargaining: Ok but there has to be something the doctors can treat me with. Maybe if I did X exclusively I will see results (I actually ran several experiments myself and paid for blood tests out of pocket to see if they were working)

Depression: Self explanatory...

Acceptance: This is just what's left after the depression fades

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ZSpectre t1_iv49vqr wrote

Thanks a lot for this as I'm someone who's trying to learn as much about the grieving process and how much it may or may not apply to a person's ability to accept tough truths in general.

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