How do we know the times when the buses will show up with this limited service? Is there somewhere to see a revised schedule? Thanks!

The revised schedule is above; and is based how long a bus take to make a complete circuit.

We will be posting more updates as these frequency times get shorter and shorter until we are able to resume our regular schedule.

One of the updates we are making is a new GPS tracking system, but that won’t be fully operational for a while.

This is such an embarrassment. The typical frequency:

> Rides come every 15 to 20 minutes, every 20-25 minutes for the Banner Route. All you have to do is step on and go.

Take money from BPD to pay more for drivers and repairs. People need to get places, I sure as hell don't need someone to harass me on on the street and show up 2hrs after crimes to shrug at me.

We know, we apologize. We are doing our best.

The issue right now is not money, but time. We are working a quickly as possible. We made another post talking about the things we are working on to get service back to regular.

For instance, though, if I finish work at 7:15 PM, how do I know when a bus is coming? I'm a 50-min walk from home, so if the bus isn't coming for 40-60 minutes, I'd just walk. But if it lines up with the bus coming in the next 20 minutes, I'd rather wait for the bus. Knowing it comes every 40-60 minutes isn't helpful unless I somehow knew when the last one came, which is impossible to tell when I'm inside without windows.

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Our apologies, until service is fully restored, the schedule will not be consistent. We expect to be releasing updates as more buses become available.

For approximately how long does DOT think headways will be at 40-60 mins?

We hope to have service fully restored by mid January. We will be posting updates as those frequency times increase.

At the end of the day it is about money. If preventative maintenance had been done and drivers were paid more this wouldn't be an issue. In a well funded system these upgrades would've been done in a rolling manner so service wouldn't have been interrupted.

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Noted. Thanks! Appreciate the reply on a Sunday 👍🏾

The city should really just subsidize rental bikes and scooters. Some of the rental companies offer 3 wheeled seated scooters, so you can just sit and press the GO button. It would be cheaper than the buses.

Just a question, not a criticism. What was wrong with the old GPS system? IIRC it did a fine job of letting me know where the buses were on their routes.

It did not do a good job, unfortunately. We constantly had issues with it.

Not only that, the new system will have GFTS real-time feeds so you can see real time ETAs and bus positions on things like Google Maps

Rental bikes and scooters and mobility chairs are already available in Baltimore.

The bird e-bikes and scooters are far too expensive to be practical for most people. I'm not even really sure they're much cheaper than an uber.

For a point of comparison -- I rode a Blue Bike e-bike in New Orleans a couple months ago for for 20 minutes and it was $4.38. I also rode it for 54 minutes a seperate time and it was only $12. I rode a Bird e-bike for 8 minutes in Baltimore and it was $4.50.

If they were subsidized like buses, they would be more energy efficient and faster.

Which rental mobility scooters are available?

FYI, the buses in Baltimore cost about $3 per passenger mile.

Copy that.

And sounds like a great improvement. Looking forward to it.

Thanks for the response!

You’re welcome!

So in my experience then the micro-mobility stuff in New Orleans beats the cost of the bus here per mile, but in Baltimore it's actually more expensive to use the bike share. The city really does need to subsidize this stuff more if they want it to be more useful. Bringing back the docked bikes would probably help if they could manage it correctly this time.

short rides cost more because there is a fixed fee to start. an 8min ride would be a much shorter distance than the average bus trip. also, many of those companies offer subscriptions that offer a handful of free rides per day. if memory serves, one of them was $16. compare that to the unsubsidized cost of a monthly transit pass of about $300-$350.

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the problem with the docked bikes is that they're more expensive to manage and not as convenient because they aren't as distributed. docked can work somewhat ok as long as an efficient company is running it. the city running it would be multiple times more expensive. simply not worth it, especially given that it's so unlikely that it would be done well.

What are you talking about. It's how much people pay. Public transportation should not require ROI or break even. Roads certainly don't.

A charmpass daily is between $4.60 and $2.48.

Your comments are nonsensical. It's clean you have no idea who rides the buss in Baltimore or even taken it if you think scooters and bikes are a better system.

Pretty sure drivers would go out of their way to try killing me if I tried to bike around southwest. There isn't a single protected bike lane that actually runs an entire street anywhere over here.

Unfortunately, it's a catch 22 where people don't want to build bike lane because they don't see people biking, but people don't like to bike without any separation. Subsidizing scooters and bike will help by letting the brave people have easy transportation

Why should bikes/scooters break even? If people prefer them to transit, we should subsidize them like buses. A monthly charm pass actually costs about $300-350.

Also, I'm not saying we should replace buses with scooters/bikes, we can have both.

Also, if you don't think bikes/scooters are good transportation, would you like to wager on a race? Throw some darts at a map of Baltimore city and see who gets to each location the fastest, you on transit and me on a bike.

Sorry boss, that's Transit Link Card, which covers:

• WMATA Metrorail and Metrobus
• Montgomery County RideOn
• DASH – Alexandria, VA
• MTA CityLink, LocalLink, Express BusLink (up charge included), Metro SubwayLink and Light RailLink

So if you're going to take MTA bus, to MARC, to Metro I got a feeling it's going to beat your scooter.

This confirmed my suspicion, you don't take the bus. Keep to your scooters.

again, it't not an either-or situation. I don't know why I have to keep explaining this. for trips within the city, scooters and bikes are better. if you're commuting to DC, then bikes and scooters make a good first/last mile mode. traditional transit and bike/scooters complement each other.

you can try to ignore that I was talking about within Baltimore and be a douche for no reason if you want, but it's hardly useful to anything but feeding your own ego. honestly, what value do you get in intentionally misinterpreting what I said? does it actually make you feel good? I do't understand. please explain it to me.

you're right, I don't take Baltimore's transit because I don't work in DC and I own a bike, which means I can get anywhere in the city easier, faster, and cheaper than taking transit. if I do need to go to DC, I either bring my bike or I rent a scooter when I get there because a bike or scooter still outperforms DC's transit for trips of less than about 8 miles (depending on the route).

so I'll ask again, if you think there is no value at all in bikes or scooters, please, lets wager and have a race WITHIN BALTIMORE CITY. we can throw darts at a map and race between, say, 4-5 locations.

Bird, Link, and Spin, as part of their agreement to be in Baltimore, all have to include low-income plans.

Bird's is called Bird Community Pricing, Link's is called Link-UP, and Spin's is called Spin Access.

All are available to apply for on our website: https://transportation.baltimorecity.gov/node/16117