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geminimad4 t1_j9br5k8 wrote
I saw a gathering of people holding signs in Watertown Square on Saturday and wondered the same; also was a little confused by an "Ayatollah Biden" sign in the mix.
whatsabrooin t1_j9cebbj wrote
If it’s who I think it is, he is always out there with an anti-Biden sign of some flavor and variety.
Persianproud t1_j9djwpj wrote
The group isn’t anti Biden, they are just disappointed that Biden administration continues negotiating with the Islamic regime who is not only murdering its own people but also sending drones to Ukraine to kill innocent people there too. The group is non partisan and only seek yo bring awareness to their communities and help free Iran.
whatsabrooin t1_j9dr8r6 wrote
I am aware. This is in reference to a specific individual who is always at Watertown Square with the same type of signs throughout the year. Whether he is actually in support of the group is anyone's guess, but the man never passes up an opportunity to talk about Joe Biden.
ShahsMan OP t1_j9cnxdf wrote
I honestly cannot even remember this sign, but I’ll keep an eye out for it at the next event I’m able to attend. I would rather anyone interested show up with their own sign that doesn’t bring up partisan things!
We are not looking for partisan points, we are looking to help the Iranian people 😁
ShahsMan OP t1_j9cnpb7 wrote
Also let’s clarify, that was one sign amongst many, and this organization is not dictating to people what they can or cannot bring, that sign was not endorsed by any organizers. This is not a partisan issue, let’s not make it one.
ShahsMan OP t1_j9btb9f wrote
I think that particular individual may just have been expressing dismay at any idea that a U.S. President might negotiate with Islamic republic during these protests.
I myself was at the protest, they are not anti-USA or anti anything besides anti-Islamic republic and anti-MEK.
I invite you to show up if you can, I won’t be at this next event sadly but I’ll be at the next, they’ll be holding weekly protests in solidarity for Iran in different locations!
OperationSpringAwake t1_j9cmmui wrote
Why are you being downvoted? Kerry and Obama literally sent a plane of cash over to Iran. Biden, and many of the corporate dems (Markey, Warren, etc.) want to negotiate with Iran to get the nuclear deal back on the table. Many Iranians in the US, I would presume the majority of which are liberal, support cutting all relations with the current Iranian govt.
ShahsMan OP t1_j9cn57l wrote
I’ve said in other comments I don’t even like this be a partisan issue, I don’t care democrat or Republican I just want Iran to be free.
We can’t know unless someone that feels the need to downvote would tell us, but that’s okay with me, I just hope more people show up to the protest :)
Opposite_Match5303 t1_j9f120u wrote
Cutting off all dialogue with Iran is a good way to encourage the Ayatollah to go all-in on a nuke. That path leads to Iran becoming North Korea of the Middle East: not a great outcome for the Iranians currently fighting for freedom.
OperationSpringAwake t1_j9f18b0 wrote
It could also lead to the overthrow of the regime.
Opposite_Match5303 t1_j9f1ip5 wrote
It literally never has. Not in Cuba, not in North Korea etc. It just gives the regime an easy common enemy to blame for the suffering of their people and an excuse to engage in further repression.
OperationSpringAwake t1_j9f24bq wrote
But it’s happened twice in Iran. First the early 50s and again in 1979?
Opposite_Match5303 t1_j9f2l9w wrote
How are you reading the 1979 revolution as US pressure leading to the overthrow of the regime?
OperationSpringAwake t1_j9f3dlo wrote
Well the 50s one was, no? And the US could’ve ended 1979, but decided not to step in.
Opposite_Match5303 t1_j9f5tpg wrote
Even looking at 1953, supporting 1 side in an internal power struggle is pretty different from the North Korea/Cuba methods you are advocating against Iran. And if the Ayatollah thought he had a credible internal challenger the US could support, it would certainly push him to get a nuke as fast as possible.
OperationSpringAwake t1_j9g5689 wrote
You said it literally never has - 1953 says otherwise.
In 1979, was it internal though? Khomeini was in France. The US propped up the Shah then took away support. The US could support a govt-in-exile.
If the Ayatollah wanted a nuke, he could get one. He knows doing so would immediately be the end of his country, so he only uses it as threat.
Opposite_Match5303 t1_j9mkmzv wrote
It wasn't the end of North Korea. Who would attack a country with a nuke?
You're being too unspecific with "it": yes, CIA-caused regime changed happened dozens of times in the last century. Yes, targeted sanctions work for convincing a regime to change concrete policy: the original JCPOA was a great example. But what you're describing is sanctions and external pressure convincing a regime to dissolve its own existence, which has arguably literally never happened (maybe the end of Apartheid in South Africa would count).
Conan776 t1_j9c7ssy wrote
>Are there any policies experts feel our government should be adopting that it currently isn’t that would help?
Ending the embargoes would be a good start. It's actually bizarre to me that Trump came in like a wrecking ball to our existing deals with Iran, and Biden still hasn't lifted a finger to repair the damage.
ShahsMan OP t1_j9cbnji wrote
Hahahahhaha wanting an end to sanctions in this climate?
And Watertown tag? Dadash, if you think name calling and sanctions matter when Iranian government slaughters its own people, your priorities might be misaligned.
Maybe this Nowruz they’ll balance out? Ba omida khoda 😁
Conan776 t1_j9cqmxl wrote
Destroying the livelihoods of the poor until the rich and powerful behave themselves is never a particularly good policy. It never actually works. But hey, mosy Americans obviously don't care about the Iranian people. For them, the cruelty is the point.
ShahsMan OP t1_j9d13qo wrote
Alright well I hope you’re as active pursuing change in Iran 😉
ShahsMan OP t1_j9bbk1i wrote
At this link you can find three initiatives the organizers think citizens can ask their representatives to take action on.
https://www.frombostontoiran.org/get-involved
Ultimately, even just spreading awareness by talking about Iran and what’s happening there will help.
Feel free to spread the details of the protest time and location to any interested parties and / or the organization website. It is made of local Iranian Americans with no political affiliation or outside influence, I am not a representative of the group I just try to spread their initiatives.
Thank you!
Conan776 t1_j9ca2s5 wrote
>At this link you can find three initiatives the organizers think citizens can ask their representatives to take action on.
For one thing, that's out of date. The U.S. has already labeled the Revolutionary Guard as terrorists. In response, Iran labeled CentCom as terrorists. All this name-calling hasn't helped anybody, AFAICT.
And, one of the other ideas from that link: that America's Congress should tell Iran to end the death penalty? Seriously? That's not exactly the right messenger considering Congress is perfectly happy to have the death penalty here at home.
ShahsMan OP t1_j9cbq66 wrote
Whatever you believe, go advocate for it! Doesn’t mean we will necessarily agree 😉
ShahsMan OP t1_j9bazrc wrote
Note; protest is held in Harvard Square Cambridge
Harvard Square https://maps.app.goo.gl/xphBmLNDq8Aao8ZE7?g_st=ic
XavierLeaguePM t1_j9bytex wrote
Not sure why you are being downvoted. The original post says “Harvard, MA” which is distinctively different from “Harvard Square”.
I was confused for a minute given I live close to Harvard MA and was wondering why they would pick an “obscure” town
ShahsMan OP t1_j9bz238 wrote
Yeah it’s weird who knows lol 🤷🏻♂️
Cannot change the post title and don’t want to repost as it’ll be seen as spammy
If anyone is serious to try and show up I’m hopeful they’ll clink the organization link or the telegram channel link and realize where it is! 😊
Stirling-Newberry t1_j9c4ur3 wrote
Some of us are in full support.
ShahsMan OP t1_j9cbsfj wrote
These comments are getting raided with downvotes…
Stirling-Newberry t1_j9cc946 wrote
That is the prerogative of each individual poster.
ShahsMan OP t1_j9ccgpi wrote
I wonder what those people might be thinking 🤔
They don’t want noise on a Saturday?
They think the flier is crumby?
Or they support the… 😁😵💫👀
Note; if you encounter anyone like that you can call them a sundiskhor!
Stirling-Newberry t1_j9ce5zx wrote
This is not the place to support anything backed by HoR with an "R" in his description. You might find a bill that has bi-partisan support.
Just a thought.
- Signed support of Bernie
ShahsMan OP t1_j9ch3in wrote
HoR? I am confused my friend
I like Bernie
Stirling-Newberry t1_j9ci12s wrote
The act is sponsored by Rep. Jim Banks R-IND. The sponsors are mainly Republicans with Debbie Wasserman Schultz as a standout.
HoR = House of Representatives.
ShahsMan OP t1_j9ci6bp wrote
I hope this doesn’t have to become a partisan issue…Iranian people need the support of Americans, we will take what we get I suppose
Stirling-Newberry t1_j9ckew0 wrote
You can hope, but this is a partisan time in the US.
ShahsMan OP t1_j9cncn4 wrote
Well I reject anyone trying to make Iranian people’s struggle a partisan issue, we are willing to accept support from Democrats and Republicans.
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Lemonio t1_j9axdpp wrote
I’m curious, does this have an effect if I imagine Boston is largely supportive of the citizens of Iran? Are there any policies experts feel our government should be adopting that it currently isn’t that would help?