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SkiingAway t1_iu2tcin wrote

> The Massachusetts Department of Health lists 15 acute care hospitals in Boston Metro area and the population of Boston is roughly 650,000 people. The San Francisco Bay Area has 16 hospitals and 7.5 Million people; I can attest I was never ONCE quoted 3 to 6 months for a nurse, doctor, specialist, or a surgery. It doesn't take PhD level math to see that things just don't add up here.

Correct. Specifically, the way it doesn't add up is that you've compared one municipality to an entire region. Your comparison makes about zero sense.

The Boston Metro area has 4.9 million people.

The SF metro area has 4.6 million people.

Additionally, Boston is where people get referred for the most advanced/specialty care and procedures in most of New England. It is not uncommon to see patients sent to Boston from as far away as the Canadian border, far outside the metro area.


The average wait time to see a neurologist in the US was well over a month a decade ago and the shortage of neurologists has become far worse by most reports. I can't find any recent data for neurology waits specifically but I wouldn't be surprised if the average was 2+ months now. (tl;dr - old people nee

The average wait time to get a new PCP is also quite lengthy.

Basically nowhere, including CA, is doing any better with this and I doubt you'd have a substantially different experience there. CA has one of the worst shortages in the country.


> I can attest I was never ONCE quoted 3 to 6 months for a nurse, doctor, specialist, or a surgery.

Have you tried getting a new PCP since 2020?

Have you ever needed an appointment for a medical specialty with one of the most notoriously long wait times in all of medicine? (and again - since 2020?).

> Beth Israel have every single day and time slot (90 days worth) booked for all their Neurologists until March? Yeah okay seems legitimate.

This is likely 100% the case.

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UltimateZo OP t1_iu2vv0j wrote

Yes I realize the error of comparison and have since added the correct information of 5 million people. Not sure why the post doesn't update, but it looks updated from my end.

Through this post I have realized that these specialist hospitals serve a large portion of the population, but the same can be said for CA. Both UCSF and Stanford are nationally recognized hospitals with high honors in many fields and I can assure you people travel from far away to go there as well.

I have not tried getting a new PCP since 2020 in CA, but I had a surgery in 2021 with 100% elective ACL revision surgery with an orthopedic surgeon. A different surgeon than had performed my previous ACL surgery. in 2019 No crazy wait time, readily available for appointments (2-3 weeks). Again as I commented on another, this may be due to the specialist as orthopedics is likely more fluid than others (Neurology, etc.).

Appreciate your response to specific points. Very concise. Thanks!

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