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brufleth t1_j04ua7t wrote

This... Isn't true.

https://i.redd.it/dystgqo9miez.png

There have been all kinds of ways of showing it over the years, but Boston's situation is unusual.

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SkiingAway t1_j05202p wrote

No, you're misunderstanding the point.

Your graph is how far they are from the downtown of the largest urban center in their region. Not the population density of the area where they are.

You're entirely correct - most airports are not as close to the largest city center of the metro area as Boston's.


However, this doesn't mean that they aren't located in a dense urban area regardless.

For example, your graph says Newark Airport (EWR) is >10 miles from the city center of NYC. Sure, this is true.

However, it's located right next to two of the largest cities in NJ, Newark and Elizabeth, with the runways coming within 2 miles of both of their city centers, and high population densities to match.

Broadly, this is very similar to the environment of East Boston and the level of impact on the population, and certainly as much "within the heart of a city neighborhood" in terms of location as Logan is.

The same is true of NYC's other airports and my other examples.

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xx9e02 t1_j04wqdb wrote

This is also a pretty inaccurate way of looking at it. Sure it may be the shortest distance from the geographical center of the city, but that doesn't mean all of these other cities neighborhoods aren't densely populated with sprawl. Take San Diego for example, they cannot expand that airport because the highrise sprawl basically goes right up next to it. Same with HNL and SJC. The list goes on... there are actually very few on that list that if you actually go in and look at their situations individually you'll find they are removed from dense areas (SMF, BWI, AUS, etc.)

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brufleth t1_j04xikj wrote

Then find a different list with different metrics. There was another one I saw recently about the transit times and again Boston is near the shortest.

I travel quite a bit and Logan is close, quick, and easy to Boston. Most places are not at all.

https://i.redd.it/zv0nz7jmpcn91.png

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xx9e02 t1_j04yg8l wrote

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm fully on the side of close convenient access to an airport. I'm done trying to drive 45 min - 1.5 hr just to make it to the airport (ATL, SFO).

I think the factor in play here is that there is a transit system connecting the airport to downtown in a reasonable manner, where as many other places do not have that flexibility of car vs. transit vs. uber/taxi, at least from my personal observations around the country.

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