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Brittlehorn t1_ixpe00i wrote

I think you maybe referring to Theory of mind which means that you cannot understand the world from another person's point of view only your own. The ability to put oneself into someone else’s shoes, to imagine their thoughts and feelings. It is also known as mindblindness theory whiich proposes that children with autism and Asperger’s syndrome are delayed in the development of their Theory of Mind, leaving them with degrees of mindblindness.

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rubseb t1_ixpinnr wrote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind

I imagine you probably thought your daughter's psychiatrist was referring to some scientific theory. But theory of mind (not "mind theory", although the confusion is understandable if you thought it was a scientific theory) refers to the ability to understand other people (mainly, though potentially animals too) as also having thoughts, intentions, feelings and so forth. Not just in a general "this is a person who thinks and feel things"-kinda way, but also specifically to infer what another person might currently be thinking or feeling. Not like mind-reading, of course - the idea isn't that you can literally know another person's thoughts. But most of us, in our daily interactions with others, are constantly trying to guess what motivates the actions of other people, what type of mental state they are in, and so forth, and this helps tremendously in order to make those interactions successful.

People with autism seem to commonly have deficits in theory of mind - that is, they have trouble figuring out another person's mental state or intentions. However, as with all neurodivergences, every person is different, and also recently some research has come out that challenges this idea. This newer research has found evidence that the apparent theory of mind deficits are reduced when people with autism interact with each other rather than with neurotypical people (and, conversely, that neurotypical individuals appear to have similar theory of mind problems when trying to understand people with autism). So, perhaps it's not that people with autism have trouble understanding the psychology of others in general, but rather that they (and people in general) find it difficult to infer the mental states of people who don't think like them. Or at least, that may be part of the explanation - there may still be genuine theory of mind deficits at play (in some individuals) as well.

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meginoz OP t1_ixpqtkh wrote

Thank you this makes so much sense and really helps me understand why my child may not understand that I can't be at her constant beck and call!

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pdpi t1_ixpnt1z wrote

Imagine I show you a box of chocolates. I ask you “what do you think is inside the box?”, and presumably you answer “chocolate”. I open the box, and show you that I’ve replaced the chocolates with marbles. Now, your friend comes inside the room, and I ask you “what does your friend think is inside the box?”

Young kids will say “marbles”, because they know there’s marbles inside. Older kids will answer “chocolates” because they understand that their friend sees a box of chocolates and has no way of knowing it’s actually filled with marbles. This is called a “theory of mind” — you have a mental model (“theory”) for how people have separate minds with separate knowledge.

One of the difficulties that come with autism is precisely around developing that theory of mind.

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meginoz OP t1_ixpr06v wrote

So basically she cannot understand that I may not be as excited and keen to play barbies (again for the fifteenth time today) as she is? So she "punishes" me for not feeling that way?

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pdpi t1_ixprqn4 wrote

Exactly. Also, applying the same logic, she's not "punishing" you, because she doesn't necessarily understand the concept. She's just expressing her frustration, not entirely unlike how a baby cries to express they're hungry or uncomfortable..

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TheLuteceSibling t1_ixqa2vy wrote

Your child doesn't think of you as another thinking entity. To her, you don't have your own thoughts and emotions and desires. Hers is the only mind in the universe.

When you disagree with her, this is wrong because obviously (to her) you want what she wants. Her wants are the only wants that exist.

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