Submitted by MicroSofty88 t3_zyfgrq in gadgets
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Visco0825 t1_j29amt4 wrote
That’s what’s interesting. We are entering an era where processing power isn’t becoming as important for everyday use. What matters is ease of use. No body wants to keep charging their phone multiple times a day and it would be nice if you could skip a day or two of charging
more_beans_mrtaggart t1_j2bky8u wrote
I just got a new iPhone 14 pro a week ago, and with a daily average use of 7 hrs 15 mins of hard use, I’m going to bed now with 78% battery.
I charge when I sleep. Mixed use is 1-2hrs of calls and WhatsApp, about 1 hr of assorted YouTube, 2hrs of audible and the rest is reading news and winding up trumpers on Apollo for Reddit.
I haven’t had battery save enabled.
johansugarev t1_j28jx9f wrote
We have enough of one and not enough of the other.
mixedd t1_j25nsit wrote
Finally, someone focuses on battery life, instead of raw power
originalusername__ t1_j278ypp wrote
Unlimited Power!
Indie__Guy t1_j2a2p2f wrote
I will take the least amount of power to watch my porn and browse reddit
AadamAtomic t1_j26wkpm wrote
>instead of raw power
The iPhone has neither of these things because they spent the last 10 years fucking up their charging ports.
rudecanuck t1_j26yaes wrote
Um, the Apple Chips are the best mobile processors out there in terms of raw power.
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WesBur13 t1_j26zpsn wrote
Designed and fabricated are two completely different things. If that was the case, then AMD is just TSMC's chips, the same with Nvidia.
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Samsung owns the factory that puts Apple's design into the physical silicon, and Apple actually designs the chip itself.
AadamAtomic t1_j270gte wrote
The iPhone literally needs to have two chips inside of it because a single chip is too shitty on its own for full processing. "It's not a bug! It's a feature, now your phone can work like its supposed too"
WesBur13 t1_j272u6v wrote
I'm sorry what? The closest thing to that would be the M1 ultra which is only on MacOS devices.
iPhones and iPads are all using single SOCs, like every other mobile device.
Here is iFixit's breakdown on the 14pro max
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+14+Pro+Max+Chip+ID/153224
AadamAtomic t1_j273vit wrote
Chip shortages my dude.
You didn't know apple was selling the newest phone with old chips without telling you?
It's easy to become a trillion dollar company when only dummies buy your overpriced chinese phones religiously for themselves in their five-year-old children.
Apple is tricking you into upgrading your phone and paying for cheap as dirt Ram, to handle their purposely disabling updates.
The cool thing about Android is that there are hundreds of different options to choose from...fuck Samsung, go with LG... you don't like the great cameras and screens on LG phones then go with Sony, they have awesome cinematic cameras on their phones.
WesBur13 t1_j275yx5 wrote
Lmao, they never hid that they used the same SOC as the previous year. It was printed plain as day on the marketing materials. The A15 Bionic was the pro model SOC. They just stepped it down to the non-pro the next year.
No one is forcing people to buy Apple devices. Not sure why it's any different from Samsung or LG?
AadamAtomic t1_j27fni8 wrote
>Not sure why it's any different from Samsung or LG?
Because of the Android you actually have options.... not just one single phone.... they are literally different phones... they are very different... Android phones are not all the same chinese clones like iPhones are.
WesBur13 t1_j27i2t5 wrote
I mean, this is my last response for several reasons, but here are a few:
You made a dumb claim about multiple chips used in an iPhone when that has NEVER happened. When questioned, you changed your argument to another, non-existent issue.
Claimed Apple lied about the SOC used in the iPhone 14. They actually used the fact is was the 13 Pro's SOC as a talking point during its announcement. Not sure how that means they are hiding anything. Check it yourself if ya want.
As someone who actually deals with mobile devices on a daily basis, I'm gonna let you in on a secret. Almost every manufacturer does throttling based on battery performance. Lithium batteries cannot handle the current required for high performance as they age. They begin to brown out, leading to instability. Sooooo most manufacturers will limit core speed based on the voltage drips under heavy load. Was Apple's super aggressive? 100%, But they also do not have nearly the same issues with suddenly turning off as they age. That's also why dropping a new battery in will eliminate the performance reduction.
Calling Apple phones Chinese clones is the funniest thing I have heard all year. They develop their own OS instead of piggybacking off of Goggle. They develop their own SOC designs instead of using Qualcomm's. Are they assembled in China? Yeah, at Foxconn, along with about 40% of all consumer electronics, including most of the big-name brands running Android.
You are talking out of your ass, and it's hilarious. With that, I am no longer responding to this thread.
AadamAtomic t1_j27kre7 wrote
>Calling Apple phones Chinese clones is the funniest thing I have heard all year. They develop their own OS instead of piggybacking off of Goggle.
95% of the total iPhone supply still comes from China – and around 80% of all iPhones are made in a single plant in Zhengzhou, aka iPhone City.
Sure, some underpaid schmuck made the super simplistic Software on your country specific update, that doesn't change the fact that it's still a shit phone made with shit parts and only cost $120 to make, then sells to dummies for a 10X profit margin.
IPhone: $120 to make, sells for $1,200
Newest Samsung Ultra: $350 to make, sells for $1,000.
The Samsung phones cost more to make because they actually have quality parts,screens, and cameras.
Apple uses a shit AI to make your photos look good on their phone screens, but if you ever upload those photos to a computer they still look like shit.
To all Android users your photos look like shit because that's how they were taken by the shit camera on your iPhone.
Your photos only look good on the weird shaped iPhone screens of other iphone users.
zhandri t1_j291kqd wrote
Since 14 pro max is actually 500$ to make, does that mean Samsung is using cheap shit parts since theirs is only 350 to make?
awildhorsepenis t1_j283ti3 wrote
We get it you hate Apple, your insecurities are showing.
Posted from my iPhone.
AadamAtomic t1_j284jrc wrote
>Posted from my iPhone.
you contribute to child slave labor.
awildhorsepenis t1_j285xuc wrote
so do you, get in line.
abaddon_the_echo t1_j282trb wrote
Seriously where the fuck are you getting the $100 figure from? You’re just pulling facts out your ass.
AadamAtomic t1_j2856fv wrote
>Seriously where the fuck are you getting the $100 figure from? You’re just pulling facts out your ass.
its not hard to find
abaddon_the_echo t1_j287yjc wrote
Yeah since your ass is right there
more_beans_mrtaggart t1_j2blz94 wrote
Well that was the most teenage rage thread I’ve seen in a long time. Literally everything you quoted was incorrect, and pulled right out of your arsehole.
So run along, and when your nuts have dropped, and you finally see the tech industry for what it is, rather than good guys/bad guys you can come and hang with the grown-ups.
more_beans_mrtaggart t1_j2bl70p wrote
Yeah, but android…. 😕
abaddon_the_echo t1_j27xewr wrote
Apple haters literally foaming at the mouth, you’re even sadder than the die hard fan boys
rudecanuck t1_j270boy wrote
Ya, you absolutely have no idea what you are talking about.
Apple newest chip for the iPhone, the A16 Bionic Chip is far faster than any chip in any other smartphone. It’s designed by Apple, not Samsung. LMAO. Likewise, Apple started designing their own laptop chips with the Mx line.
The A16 chip destroys any other mobile chip in both single core and multi-core performance benchmarks. Hell, the 2020 A14 chip beats the best Android chip in Single Core performance.
AadamAtomic t1_j2716vk wrote
>you absolutely have no idea what you are talking about.
>Apple newest chip for the iPhone, the A16 Bionic Chip is far faster than any chip in any other smartphone.
Doubt it.
Its just a clockspeed adjustment.
Apple users are too stupid to know what that even means so it shouldn't bother them. As long as they perceive it faster they'll think it's better.
rudecanuck t1_j271hao wrote
Yet, the benchmarks for it destroys all Android chips.
AadamAtomic t1_j273ciu wrote
>Yet, the benchmarks for it destroys all Android chips.
Lmfao! Weird how they can only Benchmark Apple official apps on iphones... weird how Android phones can run just about anything they want including functioning as full computers.
The majority apps that are on both Android and iPhone, are usually better on Android and can do more.
IPhone apps are always watered down and shitty, but if you only have an iPhone you will never notice. Shittiness is all you've ever been exposed to. There are no alternative app stores for you to even Witness how shit you have it.
rudecanuck t1_j274fae wrote
They are Geekbench benchmark. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Fine, you don't like Apple, I really don't give a shit.
But
- Apple processors are by far the most powerful mobile processors. That is undeniable. Can you find one tech site that says otherwise? That the A16 Chip is not the most powerful mobile chip out there? No? Didn't think so.
- Apple chips are not made by Samsung or Samsung sloppy seconds. I'm not sure where you got that piece of misinformation. Apple has been designing their own chips for ages now (which now even includes laptop chips in the Mx line, which are far better laptop chips than Intel makes).
- As far as Apps go, ya, you again are showing a complete bias, and that you have no idea what you are talking about.
- I've owned both iPhone and Android devices...
TurdWaterMagee t1_j273rbe wrote
Name an app that’s “watered down and shitty” on iPhone
AadamAtomic t1_j27fijg wrote
As someone who works for AT&T and probably sold you your shit iPhone just for the nice commission paycheck.
There are literally hundreds of apps that work better on Android, including most of the music and art creation ones. that's why Apple had to create their own Alternatives like GarageBand.
Even our reddit apps are different because of the permissions I can choose to allow the app.
You literally can't download videos can you?
Big_Paleontologist83 t1_j27h50j wrote
i know you’re just trolling, but for anyone who reads it and doesn’t know, PLEASE DON’T buy non-Apple devices for making music, even the cheapest iPad will be better than any “high-end” Android tablet or PC computer
Big_Paleontologist83 t1_j27if3e wrote
literally every artist in the worlds uses a Mac (or an iPad) it’s been better due to lower latency and infinitely better software support
that guy just claimed that Samsungs provides Apple with iPhone chips which is factually incorrect (they are designed by Apple produced by TSMC) and that Android has better app ecosystem (wrong, examples: LumaFusion, Procreate, Affinity, Photoshop to name a few out of literal thousands being better or only on iOS/iPadOS)
please don’t listen to it by any means
AadamAtomic t1_j27hglu wrote
>even the cheapest iPad will be better than any “high-end” Android tablet or PC computer
Ok...now you are trolling....apple's music software atrocious amd why they literally have to pay artist to use it.
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TurdWaterMagee t1_j27legr wrote
You’re talking about apps that less than 1% of iPhone users use. I’m not even going to debate the accuracy of you’re claim.
abaddon_the_echo t1_j27xkm5 wrote
You call Apple users stupid but you haven’t said a single intelligent thing. Pretty clear that you’re just regurgitating bs you heard from another idiot.
AadamAtomic t1_j27yb70 wrote
>You call Apple users stupid but you haven’t said a single intelligent thing.
Hey dude. I'm not the one who purchased a $1000 phone that only cost $100 to make and has ridiculously expensive proprietary Hardware that is cheaper than sand to manufacture, plus spending 30% more on everything you ever purchase on the appstore.
abaddon_the_echo t1_j282iub wrote
You really think flagship android phones are any better? The only difference is my phone still functions after 3 years lol.
mr_bots t1_j27667u wrote
Samsung doesn’t even make Apple’s chips, TSMC does.
AadamAtomic t1_j27ffp6 wrote
Yeah, for like 3 years and then went groveling back to Samsung for help.
mr_bots t1_j27g5mq wrote
Samsung supplies memory, TSMC supplies the SOCs
AadamAtomic t1_j27g8ka wrote
Samsung supplies the CPU A16 chips and ram.
All operations are being moved out of Taiwan and Chinese control.
Iphones are just tictok machines anyway.
mr_bots t1_j27gctk wrote
No they don’t, TSMC does.
Plisq-5 t1_j28j12l wrote
Congratulations! 🎊
You win the dumbest comment of the day award. Would you like to say anything to the audience?
North_South_Side t1_j25tnjx wrote
My 7 Plus is still going very strong. The battery isn't quite as great as it once was, but everything about it works just fine still. I easily get more than an entire day of charge unless I run any GPS app (turn-by-turn driving instructions, which I seldom do). Granted I am not a power-user when it comes to phones, but I'm probably average in my usage and it's easily the most long lived mobile device I've ever had. Maybe I just got lucky.
Aggie0305 t1_j26imdu wrote
I had an 8 forever, the screen finally gave out in august. Best phone I’ve ever had. This new XR I got really isn’t great that great lol
G35aiyan t1_j26l6lf wrote
I had my 8+ for 2 years, then got an 11 Pro Max.
My mother in law is still using my 8+. Dang good phones.
bkl7flex t1_j28cywv wrote
8+ previous owner, lasted me until early November. Loved that phone, only changed it because it was lacking in the core phone stuff as I couldn’t video chat as it restart due to getting hot, stutter, gps would crap put when i was driving and could not hear people properly in calls sometimes.
BILLCLINTONMASK t1_j28k9z4 wrote
I went from iPhone 8 to iPhone se3. I'm likely to have the same form factor iPhone for a decade.
matt-ross t1_j28lczx wrote
I was very reluctant but recently upgraded from a SE1 to a 12 mini. Body size is the most important feature in a phone since I have small hands.
gudematcha t1_j29sayp wrote
how was the upgrade to the se3? I have an 8 currently and am looking for something to replace it since the top speaker has blown out.
imelliam t1_j29gufm wrote
Well you managed to buy a phone that's almost not even newer. A XR is one model newer than the 8.
_Billups_ t1_j271l1n wrote
I’ve noticed in the plus models (iPhone 13 plus and iPhone 6 Plus) they def last longer. Now I know there are bigger batteries in them but they def last longer longevity wise as well
Fun_Distribution2522 t1_j27podv wrote
Agreed. The 8 Plus was my favorite phone.
im_wudini t1_j29ang8 wrote
My wife just upgraded from her 7 Plus, I believe they are never getting iOS16, FYI.
Ninnux t1_j25vdjv wrote
I want a phone that can text and give me GPS for driving and the battery lasts a month.
Sylvurphlame t1_j25zuk1 wrote
I mean don’t we all?
But for practical purposes I’ll settle for the equivalent of what they’ve done with the Apple Watch Ultra, to start.
Enough to make through to the second night before charging and a solid three days on low power mode.
Actually I mainly charge my ultra while I’m in the shower and if I kept it on low power, (edit:) and kept the iPhone within Bluetooth range, I’m pretty sure I’d never have to take it off to charge otherwise. Battery life boost has been great.
Edit: I might actually have to try that experiment for a few days.
sirzoop t1_j26r7rp wrote
If it gives you a gps for driving just plug it in and it will be charged all the time....
BILLCLINTONMASK t1_j28kgp0 wrote
There was a Russian phone made like a decade ago that had a regular color smartphone screen on one side and an e-ink display on the other for just that purpose. Reading emails and texts and newspapers without killing your battery.
manorwomanhuman t1_j25ijo6 wrote
That means don’t expect a new form factor, again.
Pubelication t1_j25vxz0 wrote
The 3-year redesign cycle ended with the 14. The 15 is likely to be different.
traveler19395 t1_j27f597 wrote
They'll almost certainly keep flat sides, it won't fold... what can they really change that would be considered more different than 13 to 14 changes (colors and camera module size/layout)? Design is pretty stagnant, and that's fine.
STDsInAJuiceBoX t1_j28b7wo wrote
Hopefully usb-C, waiting to upgrade my XS Max untill they switch.
traveler19395 t1_j28sdc1 wrote
I'll join you in hoping, but I wouldn't consider it a design change (focused on aesthetics and construction).
Actually, now that I think of it, a change to more exotic materials for weight savings (titanium, composites) would be a possible next step that would be notable but still the basic candy-bar shape.
olqerergorp_etereum t1_j26g6od wrote
why should you? 99% of modern phones nowadays look the same, same candybar design with the exception of foldable phones.
_BlueFire_ t1_j26vkde wrote
Finally! As an android user I've been hoping for this since at least 3 years ago. Hopefully once Apple will do that, it will set the trend.
0x6b-dev t1_j26toac wrote
I’d like something greater than 3200mah if I’m honest. I’d rather 3800 or more.
analinspector2000 t1_j294r09 wrote
I have a oneplus 8t mostly for the 4500 mah battery. Lasts me a full day, ill never go back. Who the fuck needs power for whatsapp and email lol
0x6b-dev t1_j2ayn9w wrote
No I just want power until the end of the day.
My current phone had a 3200mah battery. And 2 years on in probably looking at 2800mah and it hardly makes it to the afternoon.
It’s like planned obsolescence but because you can’t use your phone a whole day anymore.
analinspector2000 t1_j2b55dj wrote
I feel your pain. Got rid of my fine working samsung s6 because the battery was so shit. A shame because it was a good phone other wise. Now it's in the drawer for just that reason.
LeeHarvey81 t1_j26qf5z wrote
Makes sense, i mean what would you even do with more power? We've reached peak smartphone already.
ultramanus t1_j284gr5 wrote
This is very good idea, Im pretty sure 80-90% of users do not use the processor to full power, but everyone loves phone with good battery life.
black_sheep311 t1_j276ae2 wrote
That cobalt mining tho
drewbles82 t1_j28c7vr wrote
how about just not making a new phone every year with tiny differences to the last one so the people addicted to having the latest Iphones stop trying to buy them all the time. Try making them so they last as we're supposed to be trying to avoid this throwaway culture but if new ones come out every year, you encourage it
Price-x-Field t1_j281xqj wrote
I got an phone 14 plus after having an XR and I’m pretty amazed on how I only need to charge it once a day
loztriforce t1_j29n945 wrote
Yeah we don't need ray tracing on a phone
fazalmajid t1_j25kaqq wrote
Basically Apple's lost its chip-making mojo since Gerard Williams left the company to start Nuvia in 2019. The iPhone 14's GPU was too hot and inefficient so they had to reuse the previous one.
https://www.theinformation.com/articles/inside-apples-war-for-chip-talent?rc=6k0bdw
We'll get a boost from the recently online TSMC 3nm fab, but clearly architectural improvements are running behind.
olqerergorp_etereum t1_j26gozr wrote
ohh would you care to elaborate more on the matter? or to provide additional links to that info? sounds really interesting and sounds as apple it's starting to struggle for real this time to compete with the rest of the phone market I'm happy that this time they're going with improving battery life first BUT if they start to lag too far behind the rest of the competition, people will start to mock apple more and more
fazalmajid t1_j26pyra wrote
I don’t have any insight beyond the (paywalled) article. The M2 is nowhere near the leap in performance previous Apple Silicon generations have made us expect, however.
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DnB925Art t1_j29g2yg wrote
For the majority of people, phones are fast enough for the current apps. Longer battery life would be much better.Not just that you charge less, but the battery itself will also degrade less over time. Less charge cycles will extend the useful life of the phone
therandypandy t1_j29taqq wrote
Fucking FINALLY.
I am a professional photographer & videographer by trade. I bought a 13 Pro Max mainly for the 26-28 hour battery life. BESIDES battery life alone, I literally can't think of 1 solid reason that there wasn't anything I couldn't do on my pro max that I could do on a regular model.
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Emails? Check
Social Media? Check
Actual photography & editing needs? Why would I edit on an app on my tiny ass screen, when I have the full adobe suite with me and my ACTUAL camera?
If I'm using my tools for serious work, I am going to be using the proper & right tools for the job.
Einar_47 t1_j2a1ccw wrote
I haven't needed more processing power in my phone in like 6 years, I want better reception and battery life.
WattsonMemphis t1_j2dfqb5 wrote
Just make the battery bigger, like three times bigger.
im_wudini t1_j29aiwl wrote
I wonder if this is because of the limitations put on them by the EU. Apple HAS to be going away from a charging port altogether (no way apple ever puts USB-C on an iPhone), maybe this processor will handle magsafe more efficiently?
Important-Outcome-74 t1_j25mi5k wrote
They will call it a "feature".
Sylvurphlame t1_j25z4qn wrote
I’m fine with that. I’m not sure there are any apps out there that really push the full capabilities of the iPhone processors anyway. I’ll take the increased battery life.