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modernhomeowner t1_ivn5b2z wrote
Lots of states use natural gas as their primary electricity supply. We are the only state that can't import the natural gas we need, causing these massive rate hikes. 195% increase in National Grid's electricity supply rate is based on one thing, the Natural Gas supply not being available. We have to ship it in via cargo ship which runs on bunker oil, rather than pipelines that once built, they are relatively maintenance free and don't continue to consume fossil fuels to deliver the natural gas like a ship.
ManderBlues t1_ivmymid wrote
The pipes largely were not to deliver gas to Massachusetts. They were traveling through and would have required a lot of taking of private land and removing land out of conservation. Massive right of way widening.
Gas prices are not driven by local things like this...they are driven by global trends. So, high gas now is related to the way in Ukraine and massive corporate profits, as well as infrastructure impacts from hurricanes over the last few years. Local prices can be affected by delivery, but not in a tiny state with tons of pipelines already.
endofthered01674 t1_ivmzakn wrote
>Gas prices are not driven by local things like this...they are driven by global trends
Both. Pipelines are more efficient (read: cheaper) delivery systems than ships.
Not to say the ones she prevented would have mattered specifically here in MA though.
JerkyChew t1_ivn275q wrote
While you're correct that pipelines can deliver fuel/oil more cheaply than other methods, statistically there is very little correlation with pipelines and lower fuel prices.
TheGrandExquisitor t1_ivn2h4r wrote
The pipelines wouldn't have made a difference. These prices are all set by global forces far above the state level.
To be honest, while stopping them had some merit, the big issue is that things like Cape Wind were allowed to die while the state also pushed gas powered electrical plants. Which makes no sense since those plant owners will be clamoring for more pipelines.
Stopping things isn't always enough. Sometimes you need a fucking plan.
Unique-Public-8594 t1_ivmx62s wrote
Are you asking
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whether she said that, or
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why people would vote for her if she said that, or
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if gas prices will go up based on her policy?
I can’t figure out what you are asking. Say it plain.
a_distantmemory t1_ivmxbk0 wrote
Sorry if my question was direct or clear. I meant number 3
Away-Reading t1_ivmym26 wrote
The pipelines they wanted to build were going to transport gas that was to be used for electricity production — it wasn’t going directly to homes. And since using natural gas is a relatively pricey way to generate electricity, it wasn’t going to lower electricity costs either.