Submitted by swissarmyspliff t3_1064yax in newjersey
Longtermthrowaway5 t1_j3fir40 wrote
it's already been decriminalized for recreational use. let's stop this farce of the whole medical thing. I won't say the FDA and formal medical doctors are the end all be all of medical care, but I certainly trust them more than the average NJ voter to decide what should count as medicine and to pass medical laws. The idea of these weed doctor's offices was a joke
polchickenpotpie t1_j3gsw0y wrote
Except there are countless medical studies out there about how it can help with neuropathic pain, conducted by actual experts, but keep using your ignorant boomer talking points about "weed doctors"
Longtermthrowaway5 t1_j3ha6d5 wrote
Right, so you are saying I should trust actual experts who do studies. That's what I'm saying. I trust actual experts over the general public. That's why I'd rather leave it to the FDA or the experts over a public referendum or otherwise trust the decision to the general public. I'm confused with what you are trying to tell me. Should I trust the experts or should I trust the general public more?
But the effectiveness of weed as a medicine is a completely different conversation than the one around weed doctors. I'm talking about the doctor's offices where they seem to be operating around the cure first then look for symptoms to fit the cure. The ones people recommend when people ask where they can easily get a .medical marijuana card without having a particular illness they need to treat. The ones where they advertise something weed related on their signage or advertising campaign and who suggest very few other treatments other than marijuana.
polchickenpotpie t1_j3hdr9z wrote
Who exactly do you think is prescribing weed? Some surfer dude in a lab coat?
You're arguing over a made up boogeyman. Actual doctors get you a medical Marijuana card, and even if they didn't weed isn't dangerous. I know Nancy Reagan convinced you it's the Devil's lettuce, but if you actually trust experts you'd realize you're being contradictory in your beliefs. Your worries about fake cards means jack when teens can just buy it off some random guy at a party every day, it's a moot arguing point.
Weed doesn't give you or people around you lung canger like nicotine. It's not addictive like nicotine, alcohol, opioids or hard drugs. It's not the leading cause of vehicular deaths like alcohol, it's not even near the top of the list. It has benefits for people like my father in law, who is a Desert Storm veteran and has had it prescribed by his doctor for nerve damage and PTSD.
You're just ignorant and trying to justify that ignorance with a made up scenario of quacks prescribing cards, as if this would have any sort of negative effect on society at large even if it was true. Meanwhile, over 30 Americans die every day due to drunk driving accidents, but I'm sure you're not going to get on a soapbox about the dangers of alcohol.
Longtermthrowaway5 t1_j3hg8qm wrote
Nancy Regan? How old do you think I am? You sure I wasn't in diapers while she was relevant?
I'm not on a soap box talking about the dangers of marijuana either. I was talking about the dangers of leaving medical policy decisions to the public rather than to experts. Alcohol is not prescribed as a treatment for anything and doctors very often advise against consumption. I'm not sure of the relevance alcohol has to the conversation. You seem to be confusing the issue of recreational marijuana with medical marijuana. And that's my point. Voters often vote on medical marijuana issues as if they are recreational marijuana issues.
Direct_Wasabi5091 t1_j3gopks wrote
I trust my medical weed more than the pills 💊 the drs hand out like nothing to me🤷🏼♀️ I can safely assume you have none of the qualifying conditions to get your medical card since it helps people.. it also has been shown to cure cancer and they can’t have that there’s no money in someone who’s cured 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️ all the meds drs give you are basically to keep you sick… or you would get off them…. No money for them in a cure ….
Longtermthrowaway5 t1_j3hbtbp wrote
So how often do people with medical marijuana cards get off marijuana? More often then the average drug?
zstandig t1_j4a3j8y wrote
I actually tried it and got off of it as it didn't do anything for me. I mailed the card back even since it's state property
Direct_Wasabi5091 t1_j4a3kdd wrote
Alcohols more dangerous 🤷🏼♀️
Longtermthrowaway5 t1_j4a3xqg wrote
Sorry, I guess I didn't make it too clear, I was referring to drugs prescribed by a doctor.
Direct_Wasabi5091 t1_j4a4dvc wrote
You specifically said marijuana so did you mean that or scripts for pills?
Longtermthrowaway5 t1_j4a4nqq wrote
I specifically said medical marijuana, so that would fall under prescription medicine. I'm including marijuana obtained with a medical card, pills, and all other prescription medicine when i say the average drug.
My point is, lots of people don't get off medical marijuana, does that lead to the conclusion it makes them sick? if not, why do you arrive at that conclusion for other prescribed drugs? if there is no money in curing people does that mean the medical marijuana business wants to keep you down?
Direct_Wasabi5091 t1_j4a4y5g wrote
Well I guess you asked if someone gets off medical marijuana verses the average drug. I guess it would depend on the user but it’s def not addicting & doesn’t cause side effects like other prescription pills when you stop using it 🤷🏼♀️
Longtermthrowaway5 t1_j4a55nx wrote
but how often do weed doctors ask their patients to get off it? Do they often suggest regular follow up appointments after they prescribe a medical card? or are they not very concerned if people stay on the medication indefinitely?
Direct_Wasabi5091 t1_j4a5tq6 wrote
Im not sure I haven’t been asked to get off. Yes they refill the script can be 3 months, 6, 9 up too a year. Then every 2 years you need to renew the card. You would still have to have the qualifying medical condition a lot are uncurable chrons, MS, Parkinson’s, terminal cancer children under 18 with terminal illness etc
Direct_Wasabi5091 t1_j4a5x9d wrote
Im not sure I haven’t been asked to get off. Yes they refill the script can be 3 months, 6, 9 up too a year. Then every 2 years you need to renew the card. You would still have to have the qualifying medical condition a lot are uncurable chrons, MS, Parkinson’s, terminal cancer children under 18 with terminal illness etc idk why you you refer to them as “weed drs” my drs my primary and hes in a family practice he sees adults and children 🤷🏼♀️ doesn’t have to be a “weed dr”
Longtermthrowaway5 t1_j4a74s1 wrote
because if you refer to the original comment I made, it was a criticism of the type of doctors that put writing marijuana prescriptions front and center on their advertising and signage. The ones who are often used by people who want a medical marijuana card for recreational use rather than a pressing medical need. That's what I was talking about
and on the other subject, you criticized all other drugs as being a scam that keeps people sick when people need to use them indefinitely and don't cure a disease. is insulin a scam? is medicine used to regulate blood pressure a scam? My point is, just because it isn't intended to cure a disease doesn't mean the doctors/medical industry want you sick. As you pointed out, marijuana is a drug that is not intended to be cure anything but rather be used indefinitely.
You are not applying the same logical reasoning to marijuana that you are to other drugs.
Direct_Wasabi5091 t1_j4a5dz6 wrote
I don’t get sick when I don’t smoke 🤷🏼♀️ I arrived at the conclusion by having medications that make me sick if I don’t take it 🤷🏼♀️ only 2 drugs that can kill you cold turkey is alcohol & Xanax
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