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pointplace70 t1_iw86ghz wrote

Yea I’m sure this will end racial issues and won’t be abused by the people chosen to run and give the mayor a chance to give friends $100k salaries to do nothing

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sherkhan25 t1_iw9glaa wrote

Did we ever get a refund on all that money Mrs.DeBlasio was paid to address "mental health"

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GoPikachuGo1 OP t1_iw87pnj wrote

Sorry you think creating a job to monitor social equality in the countries biggest city is a waste.

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marketingguy420 t1_iw88mfl wrote

Yes, creating departments and monitors and "guidance" and other non-binding, non-enforceable, committees is a huge waste of time.

Either nut up and create a law that requires city departments to be staffed by some representative percentage of our ethnic makeup +/- some percentage, or creates laws that address the actual systemic problems that cause a lack of representation.

Don't spend millions of dollars to tell us what we already know.

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ChrisFromLongIsland t1_iw8dveu wrote

You imagine a world where when you look for a job you put your race, religion, gender, sexual orientation and nationality in a computer and it tells you which jobs are available to you because the department you are applying too has too few of a certain category. This sounds like what you are proposing.

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marketingguy420 t1_iw8esl3 wrote

I passed no value judgement on if it's good to have quotas in hiring or not. What I described was the two ways -- I personally prefer the latter -- of actually addressing the problems this new department will, instead, just helpfully describe to us.

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ChrisFromLongIsland t1_iw8lzq8 wrote

What are some polices that can address the actual problems that cause the lack of representation?

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marketingguy420 t1_iw8o4df wrote

Everything the McCone commission outlined after the Watts riots 60 years ago.

They found, after doing an actual study, that poor housing conditions, poor educational opportunities, bad public infrastructure & bad job conditions created systemic instability, poverty, and crime in black communities.

Those systemic problems of essentially what is segregation are what lead to systemic underrepresentation in elite political and business roles.

If you want to fix that, America needs to pass a second reconstruction. That will never happen, nor will anything close to it. So these systemic problems will remain and occasionally explode over in massive violence every 20-30 years.

And in the meantime, we'll get lots of lib solutions: committees to analyze the committee for analysis on racial equity in committees. And lots of reactionary conservative solutions: bootstraps and more cops.

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drpvn t1_iw8p0vx wrote

Why waste all these words? Just say you want quotas.

Edit: I re-read your comment and thought about it and I tend to agree with your main point that the only thing that could substantially narrow disparate outcomes for black Americans versus other Americans is something like a second Reconstruction. I also agree it’s unlikely to happen.

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HEIMDVLLR t1_iwc7tui wrote

> Black Americans

According to the conservatives, Obama’s election was the beginning and ending of the second Reconstruction aka “Post-Racial” era.

The new Jim Crow era helped Trump get elected and gave birth to the new souther strategy which is trying to push a presidential run for Ron DeSatan.

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