Designer_Sense_ t1_it8lp0p wrote on October 21, 2022 at 6:50 PM

Science is just one way to collect knowledge. There is also traditional knowledge and then there is the actual experience. If it is scientific does not make it magically better than anything else. Example quality of research can be bad as it can be good. Research can claim all sort of things for all sort of reasons. With research there are also tabu subjects that are hard to make progress with. Let say extended water fast like 30 days is really tabu subject to research. Then by looking traditional knowledge, long fast has been more common at past. Then from subjective experience people have had good and bad experiences.

I think AI will need get these 3 sources knowledge on same line, not just scientific. Then level up and let the new knowledge emergence from this new level.

AsthmaBeyondBorders t1_it9en7w wrote on October 21, 2022 at 10:10 PM

Publishing papers is a very human way to make science understandable and easily accessible / readable by people. We probably shouldn't expect AI to write papers and publish them in formats similar to ours, they would have more efficient piecewise continuous flow of data and information online that do not ressemble journal papers at all, are much faster, less readable for humans and completely interconnected. Maybe completely ditching natural language unless we force them to use readable language for humans (which may make them less efficient).

At some point even their scientific methods will escape the sphere of human comprehension (at least without artificially augmented cognition).

Designer_Sense_ t1_it9pm92 wrote on October 21, 2022 at 11:36 PM

Yes I think one main principle of technology is to be more energy efficient.

Scientifc method as word is already kind of limited for the object it tries to describe. Probably we need new words. Neural network is already blackbox so it's causality is not comprehended by human mind in case network is very complex. Network with few parameters can be causally comprehended with mind. So even if it is black box we can control and guide it.

I think AGI might be big black box with steering wheel and pedals. You see some stuff pass by from windows.