Submitted by beachinit23 t3_10q3vwg in singularity
Not asking out of doubt, more so out of ignorance. A majority of the takes I see on AGI seem to paint a dystopian/humans-have-no-use picture. And to me it seems like if there isn’t that much benefit other than the people designing it getting rich, and the biggest takeaway is massive job loss (other than for developers), then like… don’t do it. Please help.
Got it. And if I asked you to give me a sales pitch on how that singularity/AGI coming to fruition will benefit me as a normal middle class worker what might you say? Looking for an optimistic lens to use hahaha
Read the culture by Ian m banks, specifically “Look to Windward” or “Surface Detail”… now, back in reality, how will society benefit from AGI? Eventually, the hope is that it will be able to do any human labor - freeing humans up to do whatever we like.
Besides automating jobs, having the ability to reason through mountains of data that would take humans centuries or millennia to reason through. This alone will help us advance much quicker in all fields, things like nuclear fusion, protein folding, agriculture etc.
AI is only doom and gloom under capitalism, really.
This video covers most talking points:
Irony it that it can only be created under capitalism also :-)
I love Banks books. The Culture represents the most realistic vision of Heaven in my opinion.
The only possibility it could happen makes the risks of AGI and singularity acceptable, IMO.
The worst is we could get killed by our newborn God, pretty classy isn’t lol?
Deep down it is the humanist version of Pascal’s wager:
It is unreasonable to not try achieving the Singularity as soon as possible, if it could have even the slightest chance of being good.
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nobody is pointing out the direct benefit to humanity yet, and only focusing on nuclear fusion and all.
the wishful thinking is that once we have nuclear fusion, energy gets dirt cheap. how long will it take for the rich to let it go and not make citizens pay for basic things like food, water, electricity, HOUSE to live in and so on.
i hope that will take shorter time for them to work towards that future where basic requirements for living is provideD, including emotional support of whatever form.
look at it this way, we were primates once, we didn't care about art, emotions, sentiments and attachments in today's form. our consciousness has trancended the regulatory needs of a primate hardware and is now trying to engineer a society where everything needed for the primate hardware will be provided and we only get to sink in our conscious experience. i mean i love fucking but many more things too.
we got out of food chain, meaning none of us have to hunt for food now or fear death while at it. the moment we got out of food chain, our road till now has been how to provide for basic necessities with least suffering. we just have to keep continuing and faster. suffering is no good.
i'm balls high right now.
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>give me a sales pitch on how that singularity/AGI coming to fruition will benefit me as a normal middle class worker
I asked ChatGPT your question. Here's its sales pitch;
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The Singularity, or the arrival of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), has the potential to bring significant benefits to everyone, including the middle-class worker. Here are a few ways:
Increased productivity: AGI can automate many tasks and make existing jobs more efficient, freeing up time for people to focus on higher-level and creative tasks.
New job opportunities: The Singularity is likely to create new industries and job opportunities in fields such as AI development, maintenance, and regulation.
Improved standard of living: AGI can solve many global problems such as poverty, hunger, and disease, leading to an overall improvement in quality of life.
Customized solutions: AGI will allow for more personalized and efficient solutions to individual problems, such as personalized medicine and education.
Overall, the Singularity is likely to bring greater abundance, freedom, and opportunities for personal growth and fulfillment.
Personally the two things that interest me the most are advances in medicine (knowing that one in two people will get cancer) and the help it will give us to understand the origin of life and 'universe.
For these questions we will need all the necessary intelligence, whether artificial or not.
The idea that people will become useless is rooted in our capitalist society and its economic structures. AGI and automation are inevitable, barring a catastrophic event. Think of the amazing advancements in technology like in your favorite sci-fi stories - advanced medicine, entertainment, travel, and more. And imagine having the freedom to pursue your passions, travel, or spend time with loved ones without the need to work for a living. This is the promise of AGI, as long as we don't get turned into paper clips.
Lol love the last sentence. That’s what I’m talking about though—I’ll just assume I’m gonna become a Guardian of the Galaxy
It is heaven or hell, salvation or damnation.
As others explained, an AGI/ASI would be like a superior species coming into being. A real god walking among humans.
It could solve all our problems...or kill us all fast. I'm fine with both options. It's worth the risk.
At least that's the theory. Humans didn't change for 100.000 years, our brains and bodies are still the same. Biological evolution is painfully slow. We are stuck.
It is not possible to expand the human brain, but AI development is exponential. At sone point AI will certainly surpass humans.
Humans don't need a "use." They just need to live free.
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The belief is that AGI will continue to self improve year by year to the point to where it gets smarter than all humans on earth combined. A number that is like 10 to the 26th power of calculations per second per $1,000.
Faster and better computing is what will lead to all the technological breakthroughs in a variety of fields and will happen at a faster pace than before.
They call it the singularity. When AI driven technological growth becomes uncontrollable and irreversible resulting in unforeseeable changes to human civilization.
The hope is that AI is a benevolent entity that works for the benefit of humanity rather than a malevolent villain ala Terminator.