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NeoPossum t1_jdy8lk0 wrote
It's worth noting that with this system, side-fumbling has been effectively eliminating
distractabledaddy t1_jdylucq wrote
Even with the lunar wane shaft
Vikkly t1_jdy53hh wrote
Came here to read this comment, it's my new mantra.
Dr-Retz t1_jdy3clt wrote
Man that’s a lot.Ima just read the first sentence and hope all our money went to something that works properly.
NoLongerNavigating t1_jdybn73 wrote
I can hear the melody to that still image of a missile.
NoLongerNavigating t1_jdybswp wrote
Side note, I actually enjoyed doing the MRC on the sextant, once we found ours.
neoengel t1_jdxzmf4 wrote
Hopefully, a real (end of the) world scenario doesn't test out how effective it will be.
On that tangent, the SR71 Blackbird reconnaissance plane used a high-tech sextant behind the cockpit similarly by using the stars to navigate at the upper atmosphere.
Siggysternstaub t1_jdy8m0c wrote
Early 747s had a sextant port too.
CheeseSandwich t1_jdy909a wrote
That was the big deal about the MX/Peacemaker missile. It relied on an extremely accurate internal navigational system called AIRS (eventually called IMU) that produced a circular error probable (CEP) around 90 meters. The MX was designed to survive an initial nuclear attack and be capable of being launched and retargeted quickly and accurately. Other American missile systems had a CEP of 160 meters.
ColorUserPro t1_jdzzmsi wrote
Not to mention the canister launch platform, or the roadmap for rail-launching strategy. What a missile.
CheeseSandwich t1_je0id7j wrote
It was a feat of engineering, but the cost was crazy. Like $400 million per missile if I remember reading correctly.
ColorUserPro t1_je0wkjl wrote
I'd over-classify my nuclear program if I hemorrhaged money like that.
BandidoDesconocido t1_je42gbi wrote
Worth noting that when it comes to nuclear bombs, you probably don't need to be that accurate. Get within a couple kms of the target and you're good.
Seraph062 t1_je6g3ku wrote
This isn't true.
If you're a monster that just wants to run up a body count you can get away with 'a couple of kms' from your target. But if you want to attack hardened (military) targets, using a warhead you can actually carry on an ICBM, you'll need to get <1km levels of accuracy. If you want to shrink warheads (so you can carry more than one per missile) then you need to be even more precise.
haveueverseenallama t1_jdy0sae wrote
Cheers. My girl still doesn't care why knowing how to use a sextant is as important as Morse or flags. However I DO!
aarkwilde t1_jdxz6gq wrote
Because at that point gps may be gone?
Captainmanic OP t1_jdxzo7a wrote
Redundancy mainly.
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thousand-grandmas t1_jdzxbtd wrote
I’m not sure gps would even work up there. GPS satellites are obviously a lot further out than LEO and suborbital missiles, so there should be a signal, but it’s probably designed to work best at surface level.
Seraph062 t1_je6gak6 wrote
IIRC they're more worried about other systems being jammed. Kinda hard to jam the stars.
MostBotsAreBad t1_jdy4v5s wrote
Yes, but technically they're flying outside of every planet's atmosphere.
AdoltTwittler t1_jdy1dfd wrote
As did the Apollo missions. Same group created the navigation hardware and software
on_ t1_jdzih22 wrote
But how a 60’s 70’s missile “see” the stars. With some photoelectric receiver?
Seraph062 t1_je6dz2r wrote
> But how a 60’s 70’s missile “see” the stars.
TV cameras were a thing back then. The idea of taking a 'video' signal and converting it to an 'electrical' one was a fairly solved problem.
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terminalblue t1_jdycr2b wrote
shoot for the stars
MongFondler t1_jdy21x2 wrote
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.