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autotldr t1_j9jbpdd wrote
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 80%. (I'm a bot)
> North Korea's official newspaper has said the country should reject foreign aid - likening it to "Poisoned candy" - despite deepening hardships and reported food shortages.
> Unification Minister Kwon Young-se said Pyongyang had asked the UN food agency, the World Food Programme, to provide support but there was no progress because of differences over monitoring issues.
> The incident came just two days after North Korea fired an intercontinental ballistic missile into the sea off Japan's west coast, in what state media described as a move to strengthen its "Fatal" nuclear attack capacity.
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FraccazzoDaVelletri t1_j9jbtz7 wrote
Perhaps porky here is willing to share his personal pantry with his starving people
raininfordays t1_j9jc1re wrote
I can't tell if there's an /s there, or if it's a genuine question? Il answer anyway, sanctions are to stop the government and top level supporters having good life and fancy cars. Aid is to stop the innocent population from starving and suffering as a result.
OrangeUnlikely3928 t1_j9jczfk wrote
Because innocent people are fucking dying?
macross1984 t1_j9jd7ol wrote
Dear Leader,
We can't live on empty stomach while you are gaining weight. We will happily obey command if you can share a little bit from your kitchen.
Love,
Your Starving Citizens.
void64 t1_j9jdtl2 wrote
Dear leader say go back to eating crickets and grass hoppers.
stickyinvasion52 t1_j9je481 wrote
Maybe porky will help feed his starving countrymen by letting them raid his fridge.
OkayAlfalfa t1_j9jeu7f wrote
Damn, the dear leader is getting really chubby while his people are starving to death.
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thephant0mlimb t1_j9jgl0x wrote
If the candy was poisoned his fat ass would be on a slab in a morgue.
CanadianRaconteur t1_j9jh6rr wrote
Pretty sure NK captives were known to eat grass when times were tough. By captives I mean all the people in the country.
_Mr_Hyde_33 t1_j9jk4zo wrote
That's it let's starve our populace to death.
TheAbcedarian t1_j9jkbic wrote
"trap to plunder and subjugate"? What could anyone possibly plunder from NK? Human misery? Chinese methamphetamine?
waffleconedrone t1_j9jkgfq wrote
The government frames it as reparations for unjustly bombing them. I think people forget we really did bomb them into the stone age.
curlyhairedmermaid t1_j9jkt9g wrote
Wow if only there was a precedence of the US denying them help from the world food bank. Or offering them basic staples in exchange for things like infrastructure wiring and cattle tails to weaken their economy. Or the US putting up marine barricades to prevent ships leaving ports or docking in NK.
Begging you to listen to people from NK besides the ones funded by right wing think tanks. loyal Citizen of Puongyang in Seoul
Updooting_on_New t1_j9jl9ti wrote
probably the leader's grandpa last unicorn.
or some shit like that
smp7401 t1_j9jlalw wrote
More delicious candy for us 😎
Cult_ureS t1_j9jllgy wrote
And every time it's because they were trying to take territory.
Stay in your lane, NK.
(If I'm wrong or misinformed I'm happy to learn more history)
yoortyyo t1_j9joasn wrote
Seventy years ago. Many of rhe soldiers were Chinese, whom like Germany, Japan, Italy, & Vietnam have become trade partners at worst to allies.
The standard of living in NK is among the worst in the world. Legend amd myth dont hold a candle to the kidnapping of Japanese citizens to the genocide of their own people.
Not ever making excuses or goody goody on American power but the datas clear.
bewarethetreebadger t1_j9jq9z7 wrote
Hahaha! Yeah until the UN offers them ANOTHER aid package, and they accept it saying they’ll make concessions. Those concessions will fail to materialize. And the whole cycle will start again.
This bullshit is standard operating procedure for these clowns.
bewarethetreebadger t1_j9jqbim wrote
When has that not been the case?
fapalicius t1_j9jrajr wrote
He doesn't look hungry the little piggy
Core2score t1_j9jrueq wrote
China's little whoreboy spinning the stupidest conspiracy theories about the west.. I'm sure this is a first..
HashieKing t1_j9jw17n wrote
Serious Question, why are we allowing aid companies to provide help to North Korea? The regime only exsists because it is held together by aid.
Why are we helping it survive?
Ekoorb-Alegna t1_j9jwe79 wrote
“You know what, I am Gonna EAT all your western POISONED Candy! 🍭! For Saving My PEOPLE! 😍”
———— from Dealer Leader Kim Jong-Un with love 💕
popdivtweet t1_j9jzeft wrote
let them fend for themselves. Zero aid to N.K.
KnownDistribution903 t1_j9k0cec wrote
It doesn’t look like the fat pig is starving
Mellevalaconcha t1_j9k17wm wrote
Those citizens were promptly executed, for suggesting that the people aren't happy with the status quo.
Who_DaFuc_Asked t1_j9k3f6u wrote
"out past the 7PM curfew, eh? We're going to have to publicly execute you tomorrow morning and throw your family into the Five Generations Re-education Clinic. Your family is not eligible to leave until your great-great-grandchildren are born."
Who_DaFuc_Asked t1_j9k3k9p wrote
Kim be like "I will bravely test ALL of the food for poisonous substances"
lilu_66 t1_j9k7ysw wrote
Not a chance
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Far_Quote_5336 t1_j9kg0tl wrote
If you block food during a famine, you’d soon become the food
Prestigious_Pen5648 t1_j9khxo7 wrote
Korea invaded Korea?
No-Economics4128 t1_j9ki2wg wrote
Ok, a unicorn might be worth fighting over.
markedbeamazed t1_j9kkjci wrote
The leaders constantly feast while the people starve. The north Korean dictator and his family are all fucking fat.
dnhs47 t1_j9kpbx8 wrote
Wanted: new leader. Someone thin who doesn’t starve his family. (Pounding on the door, gunfire.) Never mind.
Aggressive_Ris t1_j9ksqoh wrote
The previous Kims used to do the same saber rattling about developing weapons but didn't actually follow through for the most part, or would offer concessions on what they had done in exchange for aid. The current Kim just keeps pushing forward with weapons development and the international community has not quite responded in kind to it yet.
Trump tried to reset relations with them (a worthy attempt I thought, even if I hate Trump) but it produced nothing. Biden hasn't really done anything about them (foreign policy for the US has been pretty distracted from NK lately).
What's the answer? More sanctions? Just let their people starve until they rebel or the nation collapses? I don't think there are any good answers. I suppose the best might be that China reigns them in somehow but I don't think even they have the pull necessary to do it.
Aggressive_Ris t1_j9kt1gp wrote
It takes a true tankie to defend even North Korea.
Aggressive_Ris t1_j9ktlqe wrote
Usually his father and grandfather would offer concessions for aid, they'd also not go crazy into weapons development but instead just used it as a saber rattle to get the international community to help them out when things got tough.
Fatty Kim the Third however is developing weapons regardless of consequences. Perhaps the time has come to end all aid. I believe that at some point this regime must be allowed to just collapse entirely.
LuangPrabangisinLaos t1_j9kvlxp wrote
Before the soviet union fell NK was propped up with subsidies, fertilizer, and markets in Russia.
BloodthirstyBetch t1_j9kxoy7 wrote
That would throw his round chins to square hair ratio off. Fat chance.
wheretohides t1_j9l3g3k wrote
Stop giving them aid, why the f are we helping these butthead having lunatics.
They offer nothing but hostility. Let them sink, and allow their citizens to be freed.
Accurate_Crazy_6251 t1_j9l4s5k wrote
Not sure if this is a “/s” but North Korea did invade South Kore then the UN authorized a force to fight back
Accurate_Crazy_6251 t1_j9l5fd4 wrote
Because no one wants it to collapse: Kim Jong-un knows he will go from absolute power to executed for crimes against humanity if he loses China doesn’t want South Korea and this the US on its border South Korea doesn’t want to deal with having to bring millions of people to the present as the money needed would destroy their economy The US doesn’t want to deal with the fighting and economic devastation
Accurate_Crazy_6251 t1_j9l5myc wrote
No one in power wants it to collapse: Kim Jong-un knows he will go from absolute power to executed for crimes against humanity if he loses China doesn’t want South Korea and this the US on its border South Korea doesn’t want to deal with having to bring millions of people to the present as the money needed would destroy their economy The US doesn’t want to deal with the fighting and economic devastation
fish_in_a_barrels t1_j9l6e0c wrote
Because it's a fine line of morality.
s8018572 t1_j9la1ly wrote
What ? They fucking invaded south Korea. What's this weird stance?
neilligan t1_j9lad9w wrote
After they invaded lol
YakInner4303 t1_j9lb1pm wrote
Time to dub him "delicious leader Kim". His noble sacrifice will feed half the country.
Prestigious_Pen5648 t1_j9lesfg wrote
They crossed an arbitrary border determined by Americans
OriginalSprinkles718 t1_j9lmrm7 wrote
Nettle soup is a treat!
throwawaynbad t1_j9lqgel wrote
Heresy.
The God-king maintains his corpulence through divine will alone, and has no use for meager earthly sustenance.
Also he does not poo poo.
spinereader81 t1_j9ls839 wrote
His hair looks even stupider than usual. Far more square.
HashieKing t1_j9m4zmd wrote
I don't want to help North Korea, the longer the regime is in power the more misery the Koreans will have to endure. The longer the regime is in power the more misery it projects on the world.
Helping them imo is not a morale act, it's like torturing someone
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Cheezied t1_j9mbp39 wrote
Yep, they'll just buy more missiles and weapons, then launch more rockets and missiles.
Boring-Training-5531 t1_j9mistb wrote
I say, "Let them eat missiles. And send that candy up to my room. "
Full_Echo_3123 t1_j9n4b11 wrote
Kim Jong Poon: We reject filthy American 'poison candy!!' Glory to Team Best Korea!!
Later..
Kim Jong Poon: Mmm. All these delicious American foodies, all for meeeeee!! Heheheheheheh!!
Neogolf t1_j9ndw3z wrote
Their regime is shameful
ImoJenny t1_j9nfyji wrote
This is a good sign. It means that for the first time they're having to actually compete with the PR coming over the border. It means that the people are asking why the government isn't taking free money that ten years ago they would not have even known was on the table.
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Turtl3Bear t1_j9o7exp wrote
Worked out fine for Mao Zedong
If you control the media you can literally just tell your people that you've saved them, and they'll buy it hook line and sinker.
China exported food every year of the great famine, people here still spout off about how wonderful a hero Mao was, especially those old enough to have suffered through the famine. Younger people have a more nuanced view but even then are generally supportive.
burning_spear_rtp t1_j9ojq7r wrote
He’s a throwback to “good old fashioned values”. Namely, the king is fat and the peasants starve. Like we had during the Dark Ages.
SelfAwareGrizzlyBear t1_j9plaqb wrote
Who imposed the border? Was it Koreans?
SelfAwareGrizzlyBear t1_j9pljjt wrote
When and by whom was the Korean peninsula divided in half?
s8018572 t1_j9qhdpx wrote
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Korea
You could check this, it's a natural development of cold war.Joint Commission fail to make progress. US rejected soviet's proposal.And Soviet rejected UN's proposal. With us withdrawed their troop from south Korea. North Korea decided to attack with Stalin's approved.
SelfAwareGrizzlyBear t1_j9qkhpn wrote
>You could check this, it's a natural development of cold war.
Denying agency of Koreans over their own nation was a natural development of the cold war? What authority did the US and Russia have to delegate what the PRK could do with is own land?
>US rejected soviet's proposal.And Soviet rejected UN's proposal
When was the PRK consulted in all this?
>With us withdrawed their troop from south Korea. North Korea decided to attack with Stalin's approved.
Border skirmishes had been ongoing well prior to the Korean invasion of Korea. As well, the installed dictator in the South was just finishing up a self identified eradication campaign at Jeju after unification demonstrators started making demands. Upwards of 100,000 people were killed, injured or displaced.
s8018572 t1_j9qnjgj wrote
What authority? Military occupation authority? Soviet even directly rejected UN's proposal. There's nothing can be done at the moment.
Talk about dictator, you know Kim Il-sung a dictator too,right?
Millions of death or exile cause he want to "unify" Korea by war. He wants to be another Mao as he won the Chinese civil war. Do you know he purged the leadership of southern communist after PLA retake Pyongyang for him? And then he purged pro-soviet and pro-sino members to make his Kim dynasty.He called them spy from the south lul.
Both dictator was shit,but guess what? South nowaday is better than north thousands time. And south is not a dictatorship anymore.
Even if US want to consult with PRK, do you think PRK wouldn't listen to Soviet?
SelfAwareGrizzlyBear t1_j9qv4f0 wrote
>What authority? Military occupation authority?
So Japan was justified in exporting Korean women as sex slaves because they occupied the peninsula? If your analysis begins and ends at might makes right, I really don't know what to tell you.
> Soviet even directly rejected UN's proposal.
Why?
>There's nothing can be done at the moment.
The US did not have to occupy korea. They did not have to outlaw the PRK. They did not have to install Rhee, who would go on to block reunification. They did not have to commit war crimes at Jeju. They did not have to air strike refugees at Nogeun-ri
>Talk about dictator, you know Kim Il-sung a dictator too,right?
Not particularly, no. The DPRK largely absorbed the PRK in the North, and there isn't much of any evidence to show that the election of Kim faced faced significant malfeasance. The same can't be said for Rhee. The 1948 South Korean Assembly election can hardly even be called such, considering how voting was held in the same manner as under Japanese colonial administration, where only landowners in populous areas could vote, and where single elders voted for entire villages.
>Millions of death or exile cause he want to "unify" Korea by war
Why did Kim want to unify Korea? Because the partition of the peninsula was facially illegitimate. Koreans clearly did not want it, seeing how they never voted to partition.
>He wants to be another Mao as he won the Chinese civil war. Do you know he purged the leadership of southern communist after PLA retake Pyongyang for him? And then he purged pro-soviet and pro-sino members to make his Kim dynasty.He called them spy from the south lul.
Narrativizing isn't going to get you anywhere. The USMGIK banned labor organization and the PRK. Rhee eradicated an entire island of opposition
>Both dictator was shit,but guess what? South nowaday is better than north thousands time.
Surely that has nothing to do with South Korea receiving the equivalent in US funding of several Marshal Plans, while the North received more bombs than the entirety of Europe during the second world war. What's the union situation in the South today?
Leaving the peninsula to its own devices and governance surely would have led to significantly better outcomes for both halves. The North wouldn't have been bombed to rubble and the south would have stumbled upon an at-least-vaguely stable leader far sooner than it has
>Even if US want to consult with PRK, do you think PRK wouldn't listen to Soviet?
Did the PRK have some supremely endowed obligation to not listen to the soviets? Considering the structure of the PRK, it almost surely would have aligned with the USSR, hence why the US spent so much time and effort installing a dictator in the south, smashing popular dissent in the south, and aiding and abetting in it's atrocities
Accurate_Crazy_6251 t1_j9rthhl wrote
While we probably should have done a vote: A) the USSR which controlled the North would have done a sham vote B) A bad border does not justify invasion
SelfAwareGrizzlyBear t1_j9rz6li wrote
>While we probably should have done a vote:
An election wasn't needed. The Koreans already organized into a popular and sustaining government following Japanese surrender, the PRK. The USMGIK was explicitly tasked with eradicating it in the south, and formally outlawed it in December 1945. Some portions of it remained behind, especially on Jeju Island. These groups ended up protesting the 1948 sham election of Syngman Rhee, who responded with a self declared eradication campaign on the island, resulting in upwards of 100,000 civilians killed, injured or displaced.
In the North, the PRK remained in place and supported by the USSR until the 1948 election of Kim Il Sung, whereby the DPRK was proclaimed and the PRK committees were rolled into the Worker's Party of Korea.
>the USSR which controlled the North would have done a sham vote
There's no evidence of this, quite the contrary. The 1948 assembly elections in the South faced incredibly restrictive voter eligibility requirements. Only landowners were allowed to vote in populous areas, and single elder representatives voted on behalf of entire villages. The election was married by suppression and corruption. There's simply no evidence of corruption in the 1948 northern elections, which were open not just to North Koreans, but South Koreans as well
>A bad border does not justify invasion
Not a bad border, a partition imposed upon a people and maintained by a brutal dictator, his Japanese and sympathizing administrators, and the global imperial hegemon. Following the announcement of separate elections in early 1948, South Korea was already in an open state of civil war, with guerrillas fighting directly against ROK and occupying USMGIK troops. Large scale border clashes had already been commonplace by 1949, with South Korean troops making significant incursions across the border well before the Korean invasion of Korea. In the immediate runup to the invasion, South Korean forces had been stationed at Ogjin, which became one of the opening battles during the invasion. They had also captured Haeju, some 20 miles north of the 38th parallel
The war did not begin in 1950, it began prior even to 1948. The Korean invasion of Korea was simply an escalation in an existing civil war against an occupying force and it's collaborators, not unlike the American Revolution. Hell, the US didn't even care about the South Koreans. It deliberately bombed refugees fleeing from the violence during the 1950 offensive at Nogeun-ri. Some 400 South Korean refugees, nearly all women and children, were bombed and shot deliberately. The incident was covered up until 2001. And a South Korean commission found in 2008 evidence of nearly 200 other similar attacks on refugees by the US military
s8018572 t1_j9se446 wrote
Lul, so you didn't even know the problem which is he started the war. Are you consider there's something like justified invasion war? Especially it's quite weak reason to do it.
American left the peninsula before Korean war so that's why Stalin approved Kim's action.
If invasion was successed, there would be a huge politicial purge and dissident.
Do you think there's no purge after CCP win the Chinese civil war?
North Korean people are starving to death today. And you're crying south didn't have strong union power.
There isn't much of crime evidence of early north korean election because North Korea still a dictatorship.There's no one could enter the border to investigate it.
I don't know. You keep avoiding the thing is Kim is a dictator too. At least South was a democracy now, they democratized with June Democracy Movement in 1987.
The demonstrations made by mass of people, unlike north Korea, did have even have a demonstration? Oops, I guess not. The mass of north Korean people couldn't have demonstration because of their government's totalitarian dictatorship ,not because they lived in heaven.
Are you sure you have your number right? U.S. dropped 1.6 million tons in the European theater, and they dropped 635,000 tons in Entire Korean war.( So naturally it included south Korean's territory)
South received aid from American, north did received aid from China and Soviet too.
HashieKing t1_j9szrq2 wrote
The longer the regime is in power the bigger threat it becomes, the more it's people are tortured.
Its far more immoral to keep them on life support honestly and the reasons of stability are selfish.
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Upstairs-Paper-2079 t1_j9jb6gb wrote
It’s like taking candy from a baby that runs a nation.