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VeryQuokka t1_ja10q6w wrote

Reply to comment by ktchong in German leader seeks Indian support for Russia's isolation by Falls_stuff

France and India are so often described as being close that even the Wikipedia entry for France-India relations has mentions of them as having a "special relationship". France worked with India to de-colonize its assets in modern-day India without the violence that was associated with the UK or Portugal, so it has a different path for a Western European country.

France is basically taking over some of Russia's role with India after the 2014 annexation of Crimea led to Russia accepting China's rapprochement. An example is France's recent support for India in the UN, which has historically been Russia's role.

Germany is close with China and has been balancing both Russia and China as geopolitical counterweights to the US (at least before it lost control with the recent invasion), so I imagine they haven't done much but I will let others contribute there.

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ktchong t1_ja13e5g wrote

Not as close as India and Russia.

Germany actually occupied and colonized part of China, and that is not yet forgotten nor completely forgiven.

Obviously Russia had also invaded China and stolen large swathes of lands from China in the 1800s, (stolen lands that Russia still keeps, like Siberia.) so China actually does not and would NEVER think of Russia as a "real friend". When it comes to White people in general, pretty much they all have invaded, looted, pillaged and occupied China at one time or another. So China has no friends among White people, and China would NEVER trust any White people including Russians. When dealing with White people, China would do whatever that serve China's own interests for the time being.

FYI:

China agreed to entered World War I and joined the Allies on the condition that, if the Allies won the war, the German-held colony in China (Qingdao) would be returned to China. The United States, which brokered that agreement with China, actually made a double deal behind China's back: the US also convinced Japan to join the Allies and enter the war... and one of the condition offered to Japan: when the Allies won the war, Japan would given control of the same German colony in China. (Today Qingdao is an interesting place in China: it has both German and Japanese influences.)

Also FYI:

Ryukyu used to be a Chinese tributary territories, but the US deceived China and stole it from China and gave it to Japan. You know Ryukyu as Okinawa.

How it happened: in the 1800s Japan invaded Ryukyu, which was a tributary state under the protection of China. China was about go to war with Japan, but the US (which was still mostly a new and unknown entity to China at the time) stepped in and volunteered to mediate between China and Japan. Unbeknown to China, the US also secretly cut a deal with Japan: Japan would open some ports to trade with the US if the US would give Ryukyu to Japan in the mediation. And that was how China lost Ryukyu to Japan.

Do you see a pattern here?

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