Drawmeomg

Drawmeomg t1_j9yhwev wrote

When it’s literally every job, who knows? Cultural realignment.

For real world examples of what happens to workers when large industries are automated to the point where whole communities are no longer needed, look at former steelworking communities in the Rust Belt in the US. Brain drain, people who can move away do, people who can’t end up dependent on government assistance, skyrocketing drug abuse and general despair.

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Drawmeomg t1_j9af7zz wrote

Gotcha. To try to at least make compatibilism comprehensible:

If physicalism is true, then desires are some combination of physical states and/or processes.

Whether determinism is true or not, you are inevitably going to ‘choose’ those desires in exactly the libertarian free will sense, by definition. The only things you’re not free to choose are the things you don’t choose. You could have chosen differently - if a combination of processes in your mind had given a different result, which is to say, if you were a different person in the relevant sense (which could be quite minor in the case of an arbitrary choice, but major in the case of something that speaks to your core beliefs).

The only real difference between this and libertarian free will is the belief that desires aren’t fundamentally mysterious. It might founder on some other rock (if, for example, determinism is false, or if there’s some other property of free will not being captured here, or if there’s no such thing as ‘self’, or if you define brain processes as being outside of self), but hopefully it’s at least a bit more understandable how a person could believe that, and what exactly they believe.

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Drawmeomg t1_j97tf2y wrote

Do you accept a physicalist definition of self? "Self" is the sum of processes in the brain and/or body in some way that isn't fully worked out but isn't fundamentally mysterious?

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Drawmeomg t1_j806pgs wrote

Yes, there’s no time limit. Time is the MOST important factor if someone is missing and the belief that you have to wait X days is very dangerous.

Theres a lot of messed up stuff with this situation (most notably the threat that it’ll continue past turning 18), but someone with parental authority over a minor who earnestly believes the minor to be missing should call the police, they should not be waiting.

(Whether the grandparents earnestly believed that in this situation is another question entirely)

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