The Yeti lid compared to the Zori is a joke, like a literal joke.

The zori lids are several inches thick

The zori also has a significantly smaller amount of surface area on the top that is able to lose heat.

I've spent too much time trying to figure out the perfect and best tumblers\insulated containers.

The old school stanley\thrermos's are also the same with the tapered top but zori took it farther since with "only 160oz" you can easily make the cup a bit taller, bit harder to make a 30oz one even taller.

My zori big container (1L) holds hot water for significantly less time even if i keep the lid closed the entire time compared to my normal one but the lids are both just as absurd. However the 1L is much much wider.

If you close the lid on them, at 6 hours its still hot hot. I had to buy cheaper\crappier ones so i can actually use them at home or drink them on the way\shortly after getting to work without having to leave the lid off forever before hand.

The zuri has a smaller opening and a smaller top surface area as well as its taller and not as wide.

I assume all of that plays apart with why zuri is BY FAR the best at retaining heat. The heat basically only escapes from the top and zuri has the least amount of liquid exposed. Also their lids are way more robust and thicker than everything else.

My Zuri I can put tea in it at about 4:45am and at 5:30-6pm its still very nice to drink.

I had to buy worse ones if i wanted to drink them on the way to work or around the house because even leaving the lid open wasn't good enough to have them cool off fast enough to a drinkable temp.

He 100 percent is, he has said so in interviews but it his first character\claim to fame so there isn't other stuff out there on him.

He said he wanted to do character comedy and did a clip as uncle roger and it picked up so he just kept doing it.

but glad you enjoyed it :D hes always worth a chuckle for me as well

How about uncle roger? Hes not quite as cute and if by sage advice you mean lots of hiaaaaaayah's and yelling then hes pretty close!

https://www.youtube.com/c/mrnigelng

Since ive got the QC45's in hand now I'm just going to go test the px8's and the bathy's vs the QC45 and see what one i prefer and see what i think of each's ANC.

I really don't think i need all of the qc45's ANC so gotta do some science, i could just order both pairs but i might as well go take the trip and oogle some other nice audio shit at the shops.

Deff an option, Id rather just not have to do it that way. I just got the QC45's in as bose had a pretty damn good deal on refurb pairs so might just go do comparison with each compared to the QC45 and see what i like the most.

Thought i needed the full anc of the qc45's but i dont think its the case anymore so wouldn't mind some better sound if possible.

awesome thanks.

Sadly nowhere local that has both so cant really do a back to back test.

I don't need it to be the Z1 either, id probably honestly prefer its baby cousin in terms of audio quality and that way once Sony adds on all the extra cost associated with doing wireless on it, and ANC and all the other features its not a $3k usd headphone.

I know id want to the ANC-Z1 out of the house and do daily activities with it because im sure it would be amazing I'm just not sure if want to take the risk of doing that with a 3k headphone and then treating it the way it would be treated as a daily beater headphone.

Id be much more inclined personally to buy and use one that sits around the $700-1.5kish mark.

Like what focal is doing but give me sony build and sony feature's. Ill pay a premium for that, so 1.5k id do.

You mind tossing up a review, replying to this or sending me a PM once you give the px8's a try. I'm doing the same shopping i'm guessing you and OP are doing and want something wireless with ANC that works well.

If i didn't need ANC id probably just grab some closed back's that are not too hard to drive and DIY a wireless solution to them and call it a day.

I keep kinda waiting for sony to throw something out there, since they are one of the kings of ANC and can make a good sounding headphone they are in a good spot where they can combine technology and don't have to invent their own ANC or buy it from someone else and try to make it work.