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[deleted] t1_iyf64mt wrote

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chunwookie t1_iyf7vjo wrote

Should hetero couples who either don't want or can't have children be allowed to marry?

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[deleted] t1_iyf87qd wrote

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chunwookie t1_iyf9bgf wrote

You are acting like the only benefit of marriage is tax related. There are a host of other factors that are important too. Inheriting property, medical and legal decision making, among others. Preventing a couple who are committed to each other from marrying simply because they can't have children needlessly complicates their lives. It also ignores the possibility that the two could choose to adopt children after marriage.

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[deleted] t1_iyf9tk0 wrote

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DeerTrivia t1_iyfb2ev wrote

Since when is the goal of human society to produce a flourishing human population? We're already well on our way to being overpopulated, and I'd argue there's a pretty large chunk of people who aren't flourishing right now. If anything, letting LGBTQ+ adopt children would do more for modeling and promoting a stable family unit than leaving those kids in foster care.

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[deleted] t1_iyfblbn wrote

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DeerTrivia t1_iyfckwz wrote

> I’m not sure I agree. I don’t know what kind of outcomes we can expect from letting same sex couples raise children and I’m not in favor of experimenting on kids to find out.

Good thing those experiments have already been done, and found no difference in outcomes.

> I’d say the goal of every organism is to flourish so I guess that’s been our goals since forever.

Clearly not, when huge societies like China tightly control population growth.

"Humanity" has no goal. You could say as a species we have an evolutionary drive to propogate, but we ignore or overcome our evolutionary limitations all the time. And more importantly, not every member of that species feels that need to propogate. Homosexuality occurs in many different species. So why should they be held to an evolutionary standard that doesn't apply to them?

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Tistoer t1_iyfa3p9 wrote

You can get kids without marriage, I think you just hate the whole idea of marriage

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[deleted] t1_iyfaqi1 wrote

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Tistoer t1_iyfb66r wrote

And married hetero couples are worth anything to society?

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[deleted] t1_iyfbu36 wrote

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Tistoer t1_iyfcs5l wrote

At least 90% of worldwide problems are caused by overpopulation. There were 2,6 billion people in 1950, 70 years later it's 8 billion. With this growth we simply cannot survive.

If two happy men or women decide to love eachother and not have a baby, it's only better for the world.

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