Submitted by flyeaglesfly777 t3_11uw1nz in BuyItForLife
Quail-a-lot t1_jcr402u wrote
You might want to put your country and growing zone in your post. Also do you have deer, rabbits, etc and what sort of soil do you have. (Telling you an excellent source of tulips does no good for example if you have hoards of deer like we do)
flyeaglesfly777 OP t1_jcry46m wrote
It’s Zone 7, Philadelphia, yes I have deer, no rabbits, rich loamy soil.
Quail-a-lot t1_jcsfi6g wrote
I agree with all of these suggestions: https://www.floretflowers.com/an-update-on-fall-bulbs/
Avoid Brecks! And all the random places owned by the same company.
I would recommend any of the daffodils other than the ones primarily grown for forcing. Some will spread more, but all will be long lived. Your big King Alfred types will eventually make glorious swaths if you don't skimp when you put them in. It takes more than you think to get an impressive show! If you plant them onsie-twosie they will make clumps, but they will always be scattered. Avoid the tulips with deer, they are candy - but if you do have a fenced area they cannot leap, crawl, or shove their snoots into many of the botanical varieties like the rock garden species sort spread well and so do Darwins and many Triumph. Squill of all sorts are an excellent naturalizer. I really love Siberian squill personally. Crocus spread well, may have flowers nibbled off with heavy deer pressure though. Most of the small bulbs will be fine really. Winter aconite, bluebells, lily-of-the-valley, star-of-bethlehem, snow-on-the-mountain, snowdrops, etc. Alliums are also a good pick, but do often take a long time to spread for the larger ones. Dahlias are fab, but need lifting in your climate. Be aware some of the things I have suggested may be invasive in your area, so you might want to be checking on that. Lily of the valley were impossible to remove once established when I lived in Ontario but oddly better behaved where I am in BC. (Probably because they hate the soil, but I'm okay with that)
loonlaugh t1_jcy26wt wrote
-Ack! Star of Bethlehem is a voracious and horrid invasive. (I guess it is BIFL, because you’d never get rid of it.) Listed in the Invasive Plant Atlas of the US. Known to be especially bad in the Mid-Atlantic, displacing native spring ephemerals and other ornamentals. Very difficult to remove after planting due to their vigor. (Source: a ton of research after I transplanted the pretty little white flowers from abandoned lot to my garden before looking them up, removing them “all” two months later, and have been fighting them for years since.) Please don’t plant Star of Bethlehem!
-Why avoid Breck’s? (She asked while waiting for the Breck’s bulbs she put in last fall to come up…)
Quail-a-lot t1_jcyiseu wrote
Brecks is part of the "Direct Gardening Association" which are notoriously bad. Once you are on one mailing list, you will get a ton of spam. All of them have poor customer service, terrible shipping issues, and bad quality bulbs. They have rotten BBB and Garden Watchdog ratings, so you don't have to take my word for it:
https://www.houzz.com/discussions/1787862/anyone-order-from-breck-s-bulbs-before
https://davesgarden.com/products/gwd/c/183/
https://www.bbb.org/us/in/guilford/profile/catalog-shopping/brecks-0292-90020657/customer-reviews
Quail-a-lot t1_jcyj7vv wrote
Haha, yeah Star-of-Bethlehem came already planted in our last house. I thinned it out a bit, but it did have some tendencies toward world domination. It was pretty well thwarted by placement next to ostrich ferns and really massive old peonies, but if there had been a garden on the other side of that fence instead of concrete they would have had a hell of time controlling it.
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