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tomveiltomveil t1_jbt8ndw wrote

I work in the gas industry. Whenever you switch, don't switch from oil to gas; switch from oil to electric. The electric models are superior now -- more powerful, easier to maintain, and of course WAY less indoor air pollution.

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kvsmothra OP t1_jbtdybg wrote

I’ve had a bunch of HVAC guys come out to give me estimates and most of them are really pushing gas. Is there a reason for this? Are they getting kickbacks from the gas company to get customers to start service?

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ReferHvacGuy t1_jbtz1zd wrote

I’m an HVAC guy, hvac guys push gas because they don’t understand electric. Get 1 or more Mitsubishi electric heat pump systems. They’re about as BIFL as it comes. Personally I have natural gas with a BIFL boiler system and I’m putting in 4 Mitsubishi heat pumps and keeping the gas as backup heat only.

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tomveiltomveil t1_jbtkka1 wrote

Possibly; some towns allow those sorts of cross-subsidies and some towns ban it. But two things are even more likely: (1) they are getting a higher profit on the gas units right now; (2) the guys you've been talking to are really good at installing gas furnaces, and are more confident that they can install the gas furnace correctly the first time. The biggest financial risk for most HVAC guys is breaking something when they install it -- now they need to pay out of their own pocket to fix it -- so they tend to recommend things that they know they can do, instead of branching out.

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BoilerButtSlut t1_jbtm3xl wrote

HVAC people just really hate heat pumps. I ran into the same problem for my rental which is basically the poster case for it (small size, well insulated, Midwestern area)

They never have specific answers to anything. "It just can't do it."

They don't have any response when I say that these are used all over Scandinavia without problem.

Unless the person spoke with has installed one and had specific problems that they can articulate, you can ignore them.

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Historical_Air_8997 t1_jbub9va wrote

You didn’t say where you live, if you live in a place where it’s consistently below 20F I think I’d still with natural gas. As heat pumps begin to struggle as it gets that cold and electric is expensive.

I upgraded two years ago from a 1946 American standard oil converted to gas boiler to a newer boiler. I didn’t go electric because it’d cost 3-4x the price to heat my house in the winter.

Heat pumps are supreme in places with a mild winter or no winter. If you do go heat pump where it can get sub 20 for awhile then I’d recommend have an auxiliary heating system installed.

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kvsmothra OP t1_jbusawg wrote

Yeah, I’m in VA so relatively mild winters. It gets below freezing but not super cold for super long. Still, we are pretty spoiled to warm oil heat.

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twinpac t1_jbw7ksn wrote

When you say electric you're talking a heat pump right? No way an electric resistance furnace is cheaper than anything.

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