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ShittyLanding t1_iscryox wrote

Reply to comment by caroonth in Dishwasher keeps going by Atlantic76

What are you people talking about? I have a Bosch that cleans whatever I put in it and runs quietly enough that I can watch TV less than 20’ away from it.

I bet this thing sounds like a tractor idling.

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PdxEpiBrewer t1_isdjo4w wrote

As a fellow satisfied Bosch owner, I completely agree. Our Bosch replaced a similar era washer as OP’s but I’m so happy with our upgrade. While I’m sure our modern dishwashers will have more issues over a shorter lifetime than some of these old GE - and are therefore less on brand for the BIFL sub - they are still far more efficient and effective in cleaning dishes.

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megamaid12 t1_isdon2r wrote

Also, these old dishwashers were around when phosphates were still used in detergent. Was much more effective so the dishwashers didn’t have to be as good. Just had to sort of splash the water around. New ones have to do a lot of the work.

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grammargrl t1_ise1xbn wrote

I miss phosphates in dishwashing liquid.

Oops - I should have explained better - wasn't thinking about the downvotes.

So, I miss them like I miss an addict ex, you know? There were good things - like, they cleaned so damn well, no matter how janky your dishwasher was. But the big picture is that I don't want them back because the problems far outweigh the few good things.

At the time they switched, I had an old portable dishwasher and I immediately noticed the difference in the effectiveness. My current dishwasher is old and I hate when people insist you don't have to rinse dishes before putting them in the dishwasher - trust me, if you have a janky machine like this one, yes, you must rinse your dishes. I'm pretty sure that if I were able to use phosphates in my current dishwasher, I would not have to rpre-inse. That's how well they worked.

But, again. The drawbacks and dangers far outweigh the conveniences.

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HoundsOfChaos t1_isfuq8r wrote

>There were good things - like, they cleaned so damn well, no matter how janky your dishwasher was.

Thanks for clarifying :).

Yeah I'm old enough to remember a world were we could do a lot of unsafe things without all the safety notices etc. Sure, folks would occasionally get burned, bruised, crushed, etc, but there was a naive feeling of freedom we've lost a little since.

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A_number-1234 t1_isg00i4 wrote

Were phosphates a health hazard? I don't remember, I was young when they were banned where I live, but the main reason for the ban here was eutrophication.

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caroonth t1_iscsfxu wrote

I've heard Bosch is the way to go for a new one.

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DarkGreenSedai t1_isdbt5l wrote

I LOVE our Bosch. Rinse the chunks of food off and it will clean anything else. The third rack is awesome for cooking spoons and sippy cup lids. The thing holds a ton and you cannot hear it. We got a whirlpool when we bought the house and it was so loud you would have to talk over it 15’ away. I can make a phone call on speaker next to my Bosch.

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floridaservices t1_isd3rg7 wrote

We like ours, it's quiet and has a heat pump instead of a heating element so it's cheaper to run

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myredditaccount80 t1_isdu9mx wrote

Unfortunately Bosch suspended all colors (like white for instance) about 18 months ago and hasn't taken any new orders for dishwashers from retailers in a year. If you need a new dishwasher right now, you get the one you can find basically.

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brokenpipe t1_isimcn3 wrote

Yup. Because most, at least EU ones, were made in Ukraine.

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myredditaccount80 t1_ismpb1e wrote

Interesting, I had no idea. Now I wonder what the excuse is for KitchenAid and Miele though. KitchenAid gave all its parts to Ukraine to support them in the war? Miele's parts are tied up in a supply chain nobody should have allowed but financially benefits a former German chancellor?

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Elegant_Housing_For t1_isenl7i wrote

I have a Samsung one and have to say it cleans anything and everything. My mother once said to me, “you can’t put a dish with food on it into the dishwasher no matter how good it is.”

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seanthenry t1_isero59 wrote

You can but then you have to clean the filter at the bottom more often because it gets nasty.

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Elegant_Housing_For t1_isey99n wrote

Don’t remind me.

I have a trash sink disposal connected. It’s nice when it works

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FruitGuy998 t1_isey7gf wrote

Agreed. Have a brand new maytag that does a great job. It takes three hours but I forget it’s running half the time it’s so quiet

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