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sprashoo t1_ivu3w08 wrote

They didn’t exactly spin it off - they sold what they considered to be an obsolete keyboard design and tooling to a small company, Unicomp.

I’m simultaneously grateful Unicomp has continued to plug away making the best keyboard you can buy for under $400, and a bit frustrated they have so little actual interest in the keyboard community. Their changes have all made the keyboards uglier and cheaper looking.

An actual nice looking modern (or tastefully retro) buckling spring board at an attainable price would be a huge hit

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NotYourAverageBeer t1_ivulf9n wrote

In your opinion..what is the best keyboard you can buy for over 400$?

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sprashoo t1_ivuoqj1 wrote

Probably the Model F Labs reissue of the Model F.

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onowahoo t1_ivv8gn0 wrote

I thought they had issues with the quality of the product

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sprashoo t1_ivvcvt7 wrote

Ehh, one person is recreating a complex mechanical/electronic product from scratch. I would not say quality has issues (the quality of the parts is fantastic) but sometimes some work is required to get everything working smoothly. Like re-seating springs etc. There’s a reason rubber domes took over - they just work, not maintenance or setup required.

It’s not a mass produced product.

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onowahoo t1_ivzd3mw wrote

I feel you... I looked long and hard into getting some beamsprings... But after I got a keyboard with Blue Alps I decided it was too much work and too much of a risk to spend this money on a model F.

https://i.imgur.com/9qtn4mq.jpg

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onowahoo t1_ivv95lf wrote

What ever happened to that other manufacturer who was making beamspring switches that were analog?

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SignificantSmotherer t1_ivvf7hi wrote

I always preferred the Model F, but they don’t always work well with adapters, the delete key gets confused.

Logitech tends to make good commodity product designs that feel pretty good, but longevity, not always.

If you like it, buy a spare. Or two.

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pc_g33k t1_ivutuhj wrote

Does it have to be a keyboard with buckling springs? I still have the 1994 IBM Model M with buckling spring switches as well as some older Cherry keyboards with mechanical switches such as the Cherry G80-9009. But nowadays I mostly use my RealForce keyboard with capacitive switches.

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sprashoo t1_ivuu67j wrote

Never “got” Topre myself, just felt like rubber domes to me, but objectively Unicomps are generally cheaper than Topre boards. Subjectively I think they’re better too, but that’s just me.

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pc_g33k t1_ivuw5hj wrote

I see, I certainly see where you are coming from. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any tastefully designed retro buckling springs keyboards at the moment. What about modern mechanical keyboards with Cherry MX switches? Actually, I'm not against membrane keyboards, either. It's just that most membrane keyboards on the market are low quality and all membrane keyboards got a bad name as a result. Also, the tactile feedback of the rubber domes degrade a lot after just 3 months of use. That said, the Fujitsu Libertouch is one of the best membrane keyboards I've tried.

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sprashoo t1_ivvcmay wrote

It’s all a matter of taste. I do dislike most ‘clicky’ cherry style switches (eg cherry blue) because the click feels sort of fake compared to buckling springs. There are a ton of new options out there most of which I haven’t tried though.

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pc_g33k t1_ivvglpo wrote

> It’s all a matter of taste. I do dislike most ‘clicky’ cherry style switches (eg cherry blue) because the click feels sort of fake compared to buckling springs. There are a ton of new options out there most of which I haven’t tried though.

Yep! It's just personal preference. Same here! The clicky Cherry MX switches feel less solid than buckling springs. It even feels like I'm clicking a pen sometimes. 😂The only Cherry MX switch I like is the linear black switch. But I like both buckling springs (when I want feedback) and capacitive switches (when I want a laid-back cushiony feel) more than Cherry MX switches. BTW, plate mounted and PCB mounted switches also feel different.

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sprashoo t1_ivvjmsl wrote

Yeah. Definitely construction makes a big difference. Actually, a keyboard I quite like using is an old CoolerMaster TKL with Cherry Brown switches... which I filled almost entirely with silicone caulking (the GE Silicone II type that doesn't destroy electronics as it cures). Like, you can't see it from the outside but the whole case is filled up. It makes the whole thing super heavy and solid, with a very satisfying (almost Topre-like?) sound. With that mod the browns are quite enjoyable to type on, even though nothing has changed about the switches.

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