I got XL's and was concerned that I din't get tall because I have long arms. Usually in button up shirts I wear xxl because of the arms. These both fit really well. I tried them both on with and without a hoodie underneath to make sure they were big enough and the fit is spot on.

The Barlow Pass is awesome and a great deal, the Grindstone is kind of basic yet fully functional I'm sure, only 2 side pockets. The Barlow has a lot of pockets and the furry hood, I'm stoked and hope it gets cold enough to take advantage of it.

I chose them both because they're both down lined, so very light yet warm.