Submitted by ajpathecreature t3_110mboh in BuyItForLife
complywood t1_j8blgxr wrote
Reply to comment by wierd_husky in Patagonia products - safe bet or stay clear? by ajpathecreature
I hate to be the downer about the whole trust thing, but… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cu6EbELZ6I
_2Silencio2_ t1_j8bzykn wrote
He will avoid taxes, but he also could’ve IPO’d Patagonia or sold the company to the highest bidder if he cared about money and nothing else. What other for-profit companies are set up like this? Still pretty cool that it’s guaranteed left over money not used to run the company and R&D goes towards helping the environment. Adam Ruins Everything is a great show, but I don’t get the critique this time. The reality is 99% of companies would be much worse to give your money to compared to Patagonia.
wierd_husky t1_j8borol wrote
Yeah, I heard he evaded a ton of taxes by doing this, that’s why I specifically mention the company being good and little about him other than the donation itself. Kind of sucks that he did the good thing for the wrong reasons but it was still probably a good thing, and will probably end up doing quite a bit of good, definitely still better than all those other companies that evade taxes and then continue to pillage the environment.
thegroundhurts t1_j8fo51n wrote
He did avoid taxes by restructuring the company like that, but there's many ways he could have avoided taxes, including putting it all in a profit-making trust to his kids. There were also ways to make so much money that even after taxes, he'd still be way wealthier than he is now, like by bringing it public on the stock exchange.
Even if he was doing it only to avoid taxes (which I think he wasn't), this was the absolute best way to make sure Patagonia continues to be used for good. Tax-free status is given to most non-profit organizations and to most money that's donated to non-profits, and for a good reason. It encourages people to do good things for society, rather than to hoard profits.
Pretending that this is some evil tax avoidance scheme is just propaganda from corporations that don't want to be called out on their continued greed, and their own tax avoidance. They're afraid that if enough people realize what a good thing Chouinard did, then society will draw attention to the bad things they do.
And, since OP asked, their warranty really is that great, too. They'll replace or repair anything, no matter how long you've had it, and for virtually any reason, if you think there's something wrong with it. That said, their stuff is really high quality, so I know of almost no one that's ever had to legitimately use the warranty.
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