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[deleted] t1_jd394e3 wrote

Yes, and then get rid of tipping.

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Payment-Main t1_jd4qczz wrote

Pay more and get rid of tipping. Tipping jumped the shark when tip jars were first place at counters for walk in.

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F__kCustomers t1_jd6o5rt wrote

Doesn’t matter, I stopped eating out regardless.

Between Food Inflation, Doordash Inflation, and Uber Eats Inflation, I just got tired of seeing the shit on my credit card.

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the-crotch t1_jd3p59u wrote

When tips are factored in most of these people are making well over minimum wage, your plan would cost them

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MrGeekman t1_jd6l9c5 wrote

Why can't they get minimum wage and tips?

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BisexualDisaster29 t1_jd7agqb wrote

They can. But a lot of people today treat tipping like it should be mandatory and get pissy if they don’t get tipped.

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MrGeekman t1_jd7z8cn wrote

I’m pretty sure that’s due to inflation and not getting even minimum wage from their employer.

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the-crotch t1_jd7f6pw wrote

I'm not arguing they shouldn't. I'm arguing if they had to work for minimum wage and no tips it would be a large pay cut.

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pond_minnow t1_jd5hkhj wrote

Precisely why servers fight tooth and nail to keep the tipping system. It ain't about a "fair wage": it's about greed.

Raise prices/wages and abolish tipping IMO.

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the-crotch t1_jd5u3bf wrote

Is wanting more than minimum wage for a really hard job really greed?

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pond_minnow t1_jd5w334 wrote

For low-skilled work? Yeah, it is.

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the-crotch t1_jd5ymyy wrote

Well they're making more than minimum wage currently, and there's a labor shortage which means nobody wants to do that job, so the laws of supply and demand say you're wrong

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pond_minnow t1_jd5zdk5 wrote

Yeah. Because people keep donating to them via charity aka tipping.

Folks realize it's kind of a shitty job, not a career. Can't be replaced by robots soon enough IMO.

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the-crotch t1_jd62rqe wrote

If they eliminate tipping they'll have to pay an equivalent salary or lose everyone which means you're paying the same anyway.

Idc if it's a career I know I wouldn't wait tables for minimum wage that's for sure

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pond_minnow t1_jd64beo wrote

I'm fine with that. I'd rather the price be upfront and transparent instead of this shitty guilt-laden tipping system.

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googs185 t1_jd7fua1 wrote

Most of the world doesn’t have a tipping culture.

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gewehr44 t1_jd43doa wrote

Why do you want servers to earn less? Are you that selfish?

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[deleted] t1_jd7r3mc wrote

Server wages should be raised to be somewhat commensurate to an average if what is typical after including tips, and then tipping should be fully abolished. Tipping is a perverse system that puts undue social pressure/burden on patrons and servers. It also makes it very difficult for servers to qualify for loans (cars, homes, etc.), since they don't have verifiable income, which this would solve.

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gewehr44 t1_jd9gjgw wrote

The income is only not verifiable if they don't claim it on their taxes.

You should try talking to people who work in the industry & get their opinion.

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[deleted] t1_jd9pc9b wrote

The income is not considered applicable for larger loans, which was the intent of my comment. My apologies for the incorrect semantics.

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