Finally something that can benefit all residents and not just the ones that haven't paid their bills.

I pray this goes through 🙏🏽

Did you read it? It does not read like it is meant for every resident

Lmao classic ct political solution, move car tax to rent :) because we can all chip in a little more rent, am I right? All while the free bus fair ends this month...

$900 annually since 2020 vehicle purchase.

18% interest if you are late.

If you don't pay you are reported to DMV so you can't renew your registration.

Registration is another $230

This isnt a tax.

This is FUCKING EXTORTION.

Yea. That's why I drive my 97 shitbox. Taxes were like $15. That savings covers the few repairs. I don't drive a lot but it's sure handy not using bus or Uber to work.

I dunno about extortion, but the DMV renewal part is a huge pain in the ass. I lived in Middletown for a few years and they apparently split the city into 3 fire districts. If you live downtown your property tax pays for your fire tax bill. If you live in the outskirts you live in a separate fire tax district.

I went to renew my registration and they were like "I'm sorry, you owe $12 to the Westfield Fire District, you can't renew". Took a week to pay and have the debt cleared from the system, huge pain in the ass.

Sounds like they’ll just increase property taxes on housing, and we’ll be in the same place.

I had to deal with the fire tax bill before lol annoying for sure.

Good point! This would be a great time to review the spending to see if that revenue didn’t actually need to be replaced.

I think we should just elminate the car tax and raise property taxes. We would be in the same place, but it would simplify paying and administering property taxes. It isn't a tax cut, but simply revenue neutral tax reform.

Because pricing people out of homeownership is solid economic policy.

Finally! The Legislature has agreed to... talk more about it? Is that what we're celebrating here?

The vast majority of people who own a home also own a car. The property tax is going to go up in almost equal proportion to the amount of money you save in motor vehicle tax savings.

It does negatively impact the people who don't own a car. But I think that can be worth the savings we get from simplifying the tax system by eliminating the motor vehicle tax system

Property tax going up means costs go up for homeowners and renters. Shelter is a necessity. A car is a convenience. Switching the tax burden from a convenience to a necessity is a bad idea.

I'm fine with a car tax in theory, but the way that CT does it with it tied to your township mil rate is really unfair. People who live in lower-property-value towns have higher mil rates to make up the difference in tax revenue. That means that the exact same car will be taxed at much higher rate in more impoverished areas than in wealthier areas. It is very regressive the way it is implemented currently.

If you are going to tax cars, there should be a set mil rate that is applied statewide so that the wealthy don't get to pay fewer taxes on the same car as compared to someone of lower socioeconomic status.

How?

Do you know a homeowner personally in the state who does not own a car?

If you rent, your rent goes up when your landlord’s property tax goes up.

It was sarcasm

I said do you know a homeowner personally in the state who does not own a car?

next time use /s

Not sure why you’re being downvoted but you’re right.

Anything in r/connecticut that is contrary to The Donkey Manifesto is down voted.

Anything Donkeys love, you must love also.

Donkeys love taxes.

I don't= down vote.

Every single municipality in this state relys on the mv tax for their grand levy. If they lose that stream of income, they will simply increase tax on real estate and business owners. No cuts to their budgets will be made, guaranteed.

The mv mill rate is capped at 32 throughout CT. The lower property value towns choose to tax motor vehicles at that maximum rate.

Wealthier towns with a low real estate mill rate simply set the auto rate the same as their real estate resulting in a low mv tax bill.

Greenwich has an 11 mill rate. Their entire net taxable grandlist for the town is over 34 billion. The towns budget needs are roughly 400,000,000. Or roughly $6,500 per capita.

Meanwhile Bridgeport has a mill rate of 43.45. Their entire net taxable grandlist is 6.4 billion. Town budget is roughly 347,000,000. Or $2,300 per capita.

Tax payers in Greenwich are still paying much more in taxes per person, but their effective tax rate is lower because their property values are so high in relation to the towns budgetary needs. The IMPACT of the higher taxes however is much lower in Greenwich.

If you take the mill rate of a town divided by 70% you can quickly see their effective tax rate. Which shows that Greenwich is around 1.5% while bridgeports is around 3% depending on how you cut it.

Register out of state. Less money we give these fools the better. All they do is waste it !

That's actually illegal and you can be fined for it.

Its a start at least.

I highly doubt any one does..unless home owner is older and or disabled and can’t drive

I bought my truck new in 2018.

When Corona happened and supply problems started and used car values went through the roof I actually paid more in taxes for my car when it was two and three years old then what I paid when it was new.

You're talking about property taxes in general. The major difference is with a vehicle tax, someone living in BP will pay 3x the tax on the same vehicle that someone is Greenwich would. What we need is a flat vehicle tax.

No I am talking about overall taxation for the town. Motor vehicle mill rates in this state are capped at 32 mills. Most towns set their mv rate at 32, the maximum. If they want to make it lower, they can. They dont.

Cool well I also own a home out of state so I don’t really care.

I’m sure there is a reason but why can’t we have a universal mill rate in the state? Why is someone in Fairfield county paying a fraction of what someone in Waterbury pays. Is the reason simply that the wealthy want don’t want to pay more?

The only people that benefit are the people that don't own property.

A car is practically a necessity in CT, if you want to make a living, at least.

Na that's stupid

Property taxes should be baised on income.

So the people who choose not to work, sit home and collect federal or state aid continue to contribute nothing?

Do you know what a person in Fairfield County's vehicle tax is?

That just isn’t true at all. I looked through the list and can’t find a single town that charges a higher mil rate on vehicles than on other property. The only time it differ is when vehicle tax is lower due to the state cap. This is publicly available information.

Check Stamford's for 2017-2020. The mill rate for mv there is 27.25 but has been lower for real estate.

You are wrong. The MV mill rate is set by a towns board of finance. The town can choose to tax mv at any mill rate UP TO 32 mills. Real-estate and personal property mill rates are set separately.

They probably own nothing of value. Income taxes are assessed on a percentage of income, so should property taxes.

>A car is a convenience.

I agreed until you said that. A car is a necessity here. My job is 50 miles from where I live because it is in an expensive area but doesn't pay border town salaries. I cannot get to work without a car since public transit here sucks.

Housing is more of a necessity than a car, period.

I don't disagree, but to call a car a "convenience" is disingenuous. CT is NOT a walkable state or a public transit friendly state. If my car breaks down, I am not going to be able to pay any of my bills.

"Tax payers in Greenwich are still paying much more in taxes per person (vs Bridgeport residents)" a better way and more direct way to look at this is someone in Greenwich with a 1 million dollar home is paying roughly $7,700 a year in real estate taxes and some in Bridgeport with a $350k home is paying over $10k. And when you compare the per capita incomes of both places, Bridgeport is paying some of the highest taxes in the nation on a per capita basis! So it's not necessarily true that Greenwich residents pay much more in taxes unless they have really expensive homes!