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tdigren t1_iy6irlv wrote

Yet we voted them in again!

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Ikea_Man t1_iy6njj2 wrote

what would the republican candidates have done, exactly?

you don't think they would take the money from eversource? LOL give me a break

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Myotherside t1_iy7r0ra wrote

The only thing dumber than believing in Democrats is believing Republicans are better.

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tdigren t1_iy6r91i wrote

It’s a lot like the lottery. You can’t win if you don’t play.

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy6nhm0 wrote

Fair enough. At least the crooks we voted in aren't also fascists.

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spmahn t1_iy7x45c wrote

Which members of the CT GOP are fascists exactly?

Edit: How about people actually answer the question before hitting the downvote button?

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SippieCup t1_iy83a9a wrote

Dominic Rapini

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spmahn t1_iy8re11 wrote

Ok, great, you’ve identified a total of one person with some problematic views who isn’t actually a politician, received virtually zero support from any specific members of the GOP in Connecticut, and lost by double digits.

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SippieCup t1_iy8sxrg wrote

Bruh, he's third on the list.

He received quite a bit of support from the GOP in Connecticut.

And he lost by double digits because he is a fucking fascist.

Besides, there are still more people like that in CT politics. Fred Camillo is another example off the top of my head.

Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to.

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spmahn t1_iy8w9fa wrote

What political office has Dominic Rapini ever held? You realize that literally anyone can register for a political party and run for office as a member of that party, no? Which specific politicians endorsed or supported him? Yeah, no shit, a few town committees endorsed the entire slate of Republican candidates on the ballot, and the CT GOP again lists the entire slate of candidates on their website, but who in this state has actually pledge support for him? Nobody.

What fascist views does Fred Camillo hold.

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SippieCup t1_iy8wfn6 wrote

You seem upset that you are support fascists.

I have a solution to solve this for you. Don't vote GOP.

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spmahn t1_iy8x22d wrote

As a matter of fact I don’t support fascists, you just seem quite keen on applying pejorative labels without actually being able to back it up with evidence.

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SippieCup t1_iy8x5w6 wrote

You agreed with me that the 3rd person on the last ticket was a fascist. I don't need to prove my point any more.

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spmahn t1_iy8xzra wrote

So because one person who has chosen to associate himself with a group despite no evidence of that group actually wanting to be associated with that person, that by default defines the entire organization? I’d love to hear your views on other groups of people with problematic members, I’m sure they are lovely and not in any way bigoted or narrow minded. If you’re looking for me, I’ll be over here with the people who can actually form nuanced opinions without painting everything black and white.

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SippieCup t1_iy8zd1k wrote

If you hang out with nazis long enough, you get associated with nazis.

>So because one person who has chosen to associate himself with a group despite no evidence of that group actually wanting to be associated with that person, that by default defines the entire organization?

They did give him 25k in 2021. Think they will give me $50k if they don't want to be associated with me?

> I’d love to hear your views on other groups of people with problematic members, I’m sure they are lovely and not in any way bigoted or narrow minded.

Sure. Lets talk about Al Franken.

As soon as people heard that he may have sexually harassed someone, he was ostracized out of the democratic party, resigned from his seat to the detriment of the groups goals, and was told to fuck off entirely.

Now lets look at some republican sexual crimes... Matt Gaetz, Madison Cawthorn, Roy Moore, Jim Jordan, Donald Trump.

Wow imagine that, all of them are still strongly supported by the GOP..

So its not the actions of one person that defines the entire organization. The the actions of the organization that continues support for that person which defines them.

You can have nuanced opinions all you want, but if you are hiding behind "nuance" in order to protect your republican ideals, you are really just being dishonest to yourself. You are still supporting these awful ideologies by proxy, even if you try to rationalize it as "oh but those aren't my views, I just voted for his team."

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spmahn t1_iy90axu wrote

Way to move the goalpost there buddy. Lets try this one last time, which Republican politicians in Connecticut are fascists? And don’t tell me that they are all fascists simply by association, this country runs on a two party system where you ostensibly have to be associated with one party or the other to be elected, yes in a perfect world there would be a separate group of politicians who could call themselves some other name, but we don’t live in Shangri-La, our electoral system doesn’t work that way.

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SippieCup t1_iy90elg wrote

Dominic Rapini.

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spmahn t1_iy90xdo wrote

He’s not a politician! He has never held political office. Just because someone defines themselves as being a particular thing does not inherently make it so. If I apply for a job as a doctor in a hospital, does that make me a doctor?

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SippieCup t1_iy917qw wrote

He was selected to run by the GOP, Do you not know what a GOP ticket is?

If they didn't want him, he could run as an independent. its not impossible, just hard.

Just because the nazis lost WWII, doesn't mean they aren't nazis anymore.

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spmahn t1_iy91o0a wrote

So if I fill out a form to run for city council, that act in and of itself makes me a politician? Huh, I guess I can declare myself to be anything I want and that makes it so. I want to be Pope.

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WhittlingDan t1_iyaav0w wrote

If no one else runs and almost all the Republicans voted for you, to within a couple percent of Bobs total I would say that would count as support.

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WhittlingDan t1_iyaamdf wrote

He got almost all the votes that Bob did. He may have lost but the Republicans voted for him. Less than a 50k different between The total number of votes for him and total for Bob.

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spmahn t1_iyadx8z wrote

It’s almost as though a lot of people might just vote the party line and not do a whole lot of research on candidates, particularly for positions like State Treasurer whose responsibilities might be a bit esoteric to the average voter.

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WhittlingDan t1_iya5f9i wrote

They didn't run anyone in his place, they accepted him.

Dominic Rapini got over 40% of the vote totaling 531,918. That's a lot of people supporting him, seems like almost all of the Republicans voted for him as Bob got 43%. So the party chose to support him by not running anyone else and the constituents voting for him.

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spmahn t1_iya810u wrote

They don’t exactly get a choice who wins the primary, and there may not have been anyone else qualified / interested in running. It isn’t as though it was a race that was likely to be won by a Republican.

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WhittlingDan t1_iya54cr wrote

And get a load of this, right from his description under his picture:

"...In 2018, Dominic ran unsuccessfully for US Senate as a first-time candidate. On election night, Dominic was dismayed by stories of wet ballots, missing ballots, magically appearing ballots, and late floods of election day registrations pushing poll closings far past the state-mandated 8:00 pm deadline, followed by very late reporting of results from our major cities. All of which fueled suspicion and mistrust of the results. A principled conservative, Dominic Rapini will continue his fight for election integrity as Connecticut’s next Secretary of the State."

Nothing like announcing your election denial.

/u/spmahn Did Trump lose the last election? Do we have problems with voter fraud and cheating in Connecticut? The rest of the Country? If so, what and wby?

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spmahn t1_iya85sa wrote

Yes he did and no we don’t. Rapini is a loon, we’ve established this

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Spooky2000 t1_iy7x1l5 wrote

>fascists

Just keep throwing that out there.. Like you have any fucking clue what it means..

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy866is wrote

I have a PhD in political science from UConn. I would say I have a passing familiarity with what fascism is, yes.

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LaChanceM t1_iy8fd9i wrote

Useless degree from a useless school that doesn’t even take our in state students anymore

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Spooky2000 t1_iy8zm7z wrote

So you know what you are saying is bullshit and keep saying it anyway.. Thanks for playing.

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy90wiw wrote

Honest question: how does it feel to be a clown?

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Spooky2000 t1_iy915cn wrote

Check the mirror and find out.

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy91z26 wrote

lol, very clever. I like the middle-school 'I'm rubber and you're glue' kind of response here, it's very fitting of the typical conservative educational level

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Spooky2000 t1_iy94lxv wrote

You called me a clown you dipshit. Get the fuck out..

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy957wk wrote

Awww, did I hurt your feelings?

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Spooky2000 t1_iya1ukg wrote

Pointing out that you started the childish name calling is somehow hurting my feelings? Hey, I get it, you had no actual answer so just called me names like it would win you an argument. Have fun with that..

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iya363g wrote

You know what, I bet if you go to r/conservative and cry there about how the liberal hurt your snowflake feelings, you’ll get a better response

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Dank_Birds_ t1_iy6naiq wrote

People in CT can’t get past local and state republicans in CT being different than some conservative federal house member in Texas. They vote for democrats because orange man bad and election denier wack job in Arizona bad. May help to make both sides work for a vote rather than handing it to whatever connected democrat is in line next.

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy6x1yp wrote

I get what you're saying, but the problem is that local Republicans won't go against the party. They won't stand up to the insanity. Instead, they act and function as one, and thereby enable the crazies in their own party. So some CT Republican may well be an outstanding individual who would work hard for his constituents, he won't do anything but enable the nutters in his own party. Therefore, how can you vote for them, knowing that your vote will get translated to a tacit approval of the extremes in the party?

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spmahn t1_iy7xc07 wrote

> local Republicans won't go against the party

Why would your local politicians spend any time at all on national issues which have literally no impact on what they’re going to do in Hartford?

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Myotherside t1_iy7r8tf wrote

Politics is mostly fake, parties are just there to provide capital and ballot access to chosen insiders and block outsiders from successfully participating in politics.

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy7utaw wrote

It’s a shame that so many like you share this belief. Politics is absolutely anything but fake—just ask the millions of women who can’t get abortions any longer and are being forced to carry to term their rapists’ child, or brain dead fetuses, or their father’s/brother’s/other relative’s child.

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Myotherside t1_iyb5o26 wrote

Under a democratic president and in many states new abortion laws were signed into law by democratic governors. And when it comes to other critically important issues they are totally useless. Just give me a break with the political apologetics. Most of these political narratives are just that: narratives.

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Dank_Birds_ t1_iy7z2nx wrote

Politics is real. The only reason this is an issue in conservative states is because the democrats failed to see through their prior promises. They knew if roe was ever overturned or challenged that it would be great politically so they did nothing. It’s an issue that will get a moderate women to vote democrat. That’s why it was never a legislative priority at the federal level when Obama and Joe could’ve secured it. The vast majority of America is fine with common sense abortion laws. The issue again is liberal democrats that say dumb things that get repeated on Fox News… like allowing elective late stage abortion for no medical purpose.

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Spooky2000 t1_iy7xg1f wrote

Less than 1% of all abortions are from rape or incest. But go on...

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy87qo6 wrote

This comes from a study done in 1987, where 1900 women were surveyed. It’s hardly representative of today’s statistics. But even if it were, 1% (using 1987 numbers…nearly 40 years out of date) represents something like 16,000 women per year. So you’d be okay with 16,000 women each year being forced to give birth to their rapists’ child?

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WhittlingDan t1_iyac869 wrote

They painted themselves in the corner on this. If they want to claim abortion is murder they can't very well claim that it doesn't count just because the father was/is a rapist/cousin...

I'm Pro-choice. If they claim any exception but medical is ok then they are contradicting their abortion is murder claim. So I wonder what part they are lying about? Reminds me of when I heard Roe Vs Wade was settled, by a Republican, only to overturn it.

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Spooky2000 t1_iy885o0 wrote

>So you’d be okay with 16,000 women each year being forced to give birth to their rapists’ child?

No, I'm not. But almost every state still has exceptions for these things along with the health of the mother.

If democrats really cared, they would have codified abortion sometime in the last 50 years, but they don't. They just want to use it as a political tool.

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WhittlingDan t1_iyacxpo wrote

So are you saying your ok with abortion for rape/incest and mothers health but nothing else?

Do you not believe abortion is murder? How does who the father is change that? Either you believe its murder or it isnt?

Im pro choice and consistent or should I say pro-choice and honest?

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Dank_Birds_ t1_iy80esd wrote

That’s no different than voting democrat over and over again securing the looney left. No ultra conservative Republican could win a seat in CT so I don’t understand your concern. CT is just an auto win for whatever person is on the democratic ticket. These people are typically just connected friends of prior politicians that moved up or out. In a two party system CT would be better off swinging back and forth to ensure neither extreme gets a hold they use for personal gain. Many CT Dems are just trying to get to DC the easy way.

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Seegson-Synthetics t1_iy870ws wrote

You’re presenting a false equivalence, though. Just because the behavior appears similar (Democrats voting and acting as a single bloc, like the Republicans do) doesn’t mean they’re the same. If you have ten people who always agree the sky is blue and ten people who agree that it’s red, the side that insists the sky is red cannot point to their opposite group and say “See? They always vote together, just like us!” Well, of course they do, because it’s a fact (that the sky is blue). They’re definitely not behaving in the same way as the group that insists the sky is red, even though it might appear that way (all voting as a single bloc).

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