B6304T4 t1_j1zphim wrote
Reply to comment by iCUman in New Connecticut laws for 2023: new truck tax, a pay raise for legislators and bottle deposit expansion by tottergeek
So if we both acknowledge that there's an issue with litter. Why not go after the scumbags? It just seems all to familiar to when that one loser would act up in kindergarten and get recess taken away from the other 99%.
iCUman t1_j1zyo3d wrote
This is exactly what a bottle deposit does. If you are responsible with your nips, you are not harmed by a $1 deposit - you get your money back when you return them. It targets the litterers directly by hitting them in the pocketbook.
B6304T4 t1_j205c8g wrote
No. If im responsible with my nips, I would dispose or them like a contributing member of society. If I buy a sleeve of nips, which cost 10 bucks... And there's a 1 dollar deposit, I'm spending 20 dollars. I now have to make sure I save them all.... Put them in a separate bag, and then go out of my way to return them. At that point I'll buy the 22 dollar bottle to get 3x the volume and throw it away like an adult that should have thrown the nips out the exact same way, in the trash/recycle. Frankly, if nips have a $1+ return you may as well just litter them, at least thats what the money is supposedly going towards? Cleanup? Get what you pay for, and maybe you make some bum's day in the process.
iCUman t1_j20abo2 wrote
Yeah, you sound like a responsible adult whining about collecting all your nips up. Just remind your mom to do it after she's done wiping your ass.
B6304T4 t1_j20u37r wrote
Im willing and able to throw em in the trash. Not keep them in a bag in my trunk for a week. Think of licking my taint while you keep having to pick them up off your yard.
traumatyz t1_j21afkp wrote
Damn dude, I hope 10x as many people toss nips in your yard after reading that comment.
That way you can call the town and put all those good tax dollars you’re advocating to add to the state to use and have them come clean it up.
iCUman t1_j23rn7c wrote
Pro-litterbug. Good for you, chief. Not often you see people defending the degenerates in our society.
I'm not advocating for a tax. I'm advocating for a deposit. But I'd also support a ban. If people are going to act like spoiled children when it comes to nips, then I'm perfectly fine with taking their toys away.
traumatyz t1_j25n5p7 wrote
Nah you just seem like an absolute cock and deserve what you get. Dude was making a fair point then you were an asshole to him for no reason. With that type of interaction I’m assuming whoever’s tossing nips in your lawn just doesn’t like you.
A deposit, IS a tax with how this state handles it. Machines don’t work or are always full. The minimum wage teenagers who work at the stores that even have them don’t know how to maintain or repair them, or they flat out won’t take what they don’t carry. For nips specifically they’d need special machines produced to take them mass produced then sent to every liquor store in the state, which would cost a TON of money. Or you could just make the liquor stores handle the returns, which then is a tax on them and their employees due to their time spent counting, inventorying, setting aside proper return funds, then bringing the empties to proper establishments. Not even counting how this entire process is a tax on your time in the first place.
All of this because YOU don’t have an adequate way of surveilling/protecting your own property, which is your responsibility in the first place.
Throw a camera up and grab their plates/faces and report them like every other homeowner does when someone is constantly defacing their property.
iCUman t1_j25r2ne wrote
A deposit is not a tax, regardless of your thoughts on the matter. You are welcome to create whatever personal justifications you'd like to alter reality to your beliefs, just remember that reality doesn't give af about what you believe.
Package stores are already obligated to take returns given that a good number of their wares are subject to deposits already. Anyone with passing knowledge is already aware of this, but given your inability to distinguish between a deposit and a tax, your ignorance is understandable. As is your willingness to trample the rights of innocent 3rd parties harmed by the antisocial and illegal behavior at the root of the issue here.
Nevertheless, it's a good thing there are white knights like you around to come to the defense of helpless souls that would be subject to great injustice if they were expected to confirm to basic societal expectations like not throwing shit out of your car window. Seems like he's in the market for a taint-licker, and boy did you come running. I wish you both a happy future.
traumatyz t1_j269feu wrote
A “deposit” that is not easily refundable or in working order is a tax. Regardless of what legal nonsense CT legislators would like you to abide by. Especially when all “unclaimed” funds are collected by the state. No wonder they don’t bother making it easy, repair the machines, or automatic through town recycling.
Protecting your own property on the other hand is 110% your own responsibility. Just be an adult and throw a camera up. Get the guy a littering ticket or two and solve the problem. You don’t have to go to daddy Lamont to solve your trivial issues by making everyone else pay more money.
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