_343_Guilty_Spark__ t1_j6n88gr wrote on January 31, 2023 at 3:13 PM

Reply to comment by Soggy_Affect6063 in Manchester High School student charged for carrying gun on school grounds by Kolzig33189

It’s almost as if it’s a prevalence of guns and the borderline fetishization culture surrounding them that’s the issue

But as we all know, logic dictates we should just either ban them or smugly talk about how the news reports got a minuscule detail about the gun wrong instead of addressing the actual problems

Soggy_Affect6063 t1_j6nb7rh wrote on January 31, 2023 at 3:32 PM

Oh gawd this guy! 🤔 What is up with you and this “fetish” nonsense?

_343_Guilty_Spark__ t1_j6nbyvp wrote on January 31, 2023 at 3:37 PM

Accurately describing the reactions and behavior of both sides of the gun debate is nonsense?

Edit: Decided to see which side you fell on and instead found this lol not even 3 days ago. I’ll accept your apology and you can go edit the “nonsense” part out of your comment now

You cannot make this kind of stuff up lol and you had the audacity to downvote me

Soggy_Affect6063 t1_j6ndg1n wrote on January 31, 2023 at 3:47 PM

Then clarify. What do you mean by fetishization?

Edit: How does my asking if it has a tag or making a joke qualify as fetishization of the culture? Don’t try to take it out of context, nothing that was posted is actually sexual in nature. You’re reaching hence the downvote.

Edit 2: and buddy, I didn’t even downvote you.

_343_Guilty_Spark__ t1_j6nuzt8 wrote on January 31, 2023 at 5:35 PM

Ah ok my bad, I didn’t realize that comparing a gun collection to porn or making sexual jokes about guns isn’t actually sexual and is out of context. You’ll have to forgive my reaching, sometimes I just see such basic logic and can’t help but reach for it you know?

Jokes aside, the culture surrounding guns is not healthy. Am I being a bit hyperbolic when I say it’s almost a fetish? Sort of, sure.

But we can just look at his post, it’s comments and reactions to prove me right. I show up, stating facts about BOTH sides of the gun debate, and only receive downvotes and lies about people’s behavior despite providing undeniable proof of said behavior? Do you think that’s healthy?

Let’s look at the other comments. A bunch of the usual gun debate suspects in this sub, and not a SINGLE one of them is saying that this is a problem. What are they doing? Going after the one turbo anti gun guy who deleted their comment. Do you think this is healthy?

Silence is an omission of guilt. There IS a gun problem. A ban won’t work, so attacking the culture surrounding guns or lowering the amount in circulation are the next two most logical solutions.

And last but not least, the post you commented on is literally comparing guns to porn and you comment in the second link could not be anything except sexual. Please do not lie when you’re anonymous online, it’s pointless. Have some self respect

Soggy_Affect6063 t1_j6o4kwu wrote on January 31, 2023 at 6:33 PM

Jeebus cripes that’s a “dick bangin prostitutes” ton to unpack here (I said “cripes” lest you think that I’m fetishizing religion too with this joke). /s

“Ah ok my bad, I didn’t realize that comparing a gun collection to porn or making sexual jokes about guns isn’t actually sexual and is out of context. You’ll have to forgive my reaching, sometimes I just see such basic logic and can’t help but reach for it you know?”

So basic logic is any joke, pun, limerick relating to sex and guns = fetishized ewww. Got it. Orrrrr you don’t agree with the culture so you find any way you can to stigmatize it.

“Jokes aside, the culture surrounding guns is not healthy.”

Yes because cultivating physical fitness, a proactive mindset about deadly threat prevention and response, as well as being mindful of your capabilities, is unhealthy. /s Yeah, I’m getting the feeling that you can’t use your own basic logic to differentiate between gun culture and criminal activity.

“But we can just look at his post, it’s comments and reactions to prove me right. I show up, stating facts about BOTH sides of the gun debate, and only receive downvotes and lies about people’s behavior despite providing undeniable proof of said behavior? Do you think that’s healthy?”

This is reddit, stop getting hung up on the downvote thing. People can disagree with your opinions. If you care that much, kinda says more about the health of your mentality, buddy.

“Let’s look at the other comments. A bunch of the usual gun debate suspects in this sub, and not a SINGLE one of them is saying that this is a problem. What are they doing? Going after the one turbo anti gun guy who deleted their comment. Do you think this is healthy?”

What the hell are you talking about? You do the exact same thing. Hell, you wrote me multiple paragraphs in response.

“Silence is an omission of guilt. There IS a gun problem. A ban won’t work, so attacking the culture surrounding guns or lowering the amount in circulation…”

I’m gonna stop you right there. Lowering the amount of guns isn’t gonna stop people from being violent assholes or irresponsible/ignorant individuals. We have tons of government programs here and yet I don’t see any officials proposing use of funds for proper secure and quick access gun safes or incentives to gun safety courses. You want to keep guns out of the wrong hands, start there.

“And last but not least, the post you commented on is literally comparing guns to porn and you comment in the second link could not be anything except sexual. Please do not lie when you’re anonymous online, it’s pointless. Have some self respect”

That doesn’t equal a fetish or fetishization. It’s a joke not actual porn. Unless you were aroused by it somehow, in which case, you do you. 🤷‍♂️.

_343_Guilty_Spark__ t1_j6oj3x4 wrote on January 31, 2023 at 8:03 PM

Do you or do you not see any issues with the culture surrounding guns

Soggy_Affect6063 t1_j6ou4uy wrote on January 31, 2023 at 9:11 PM

Depends. In what context are you talking about? Because if you just sit there and generalize the whole community based on a joke or based on a criminal event, you aren’t looking at the entire picture. You throw the word culture around relating to the gun community but you clearly dismiss the vast majority within the community constantly preaching gun safety, shoot responsibly, secure their firearms properly, and try to educate those who don’t know what the “culture” is all about. It’s not even a culture. It’s in essence your right to self preservation. To answer your question, I see the ignorance surrounding what non-gun owners view as gun culture, as the problem. I see the lack of focus on the sequence of events that lead up to the criminal act mainly what the motive was, as a problem. And I see the constant emotional restrict access, reclassify, and ban it mentality that the other side keeps pushing as another problem.