Dry-Gulch-Slim t1_je15zuh wrote
Try asking people who go to arr-Biology to go to arr-WhatsThisBug for their identification questions. It's a losing battle because people are idiots.
bake_disaster t1_je183fy wrote
WhatsThisBird and Birding just gave up trying to redirect people because people can't read the sidebar
Dry-Gulch-Slim t1_je19mfc wrote
Biology made a modpost redirecting them and just didn't enforce it. It's a mess.
I am not an ornithologist but I can tell the difference between "whatsthisbird" and "birding". I think.
Whatsthisbird is for identification and birding is for the hobby of photographing and finding birds right? At a guess, swear no looking.
E: okay now I looked and subbed. I love pro pictures of birds. There's that person that always posts on animalporn and I dig it.
bake_disaster t1_je1csyn wrote
But this line of thinking requires you to know both exist. When in reality you can just snap a blurry pic of a house sparrow with your Motorola Razer from 2005 and post to Birding, asking if it's a rare bird species
Dry-Gulch-Slim t1_je1flwv wrote
I actually didn't know either sub existed but I sure as hell know how to Google. Literally everyone does.
More importantly I can go on a sub and search for top all time and read the sidebar.
And that bit about the razr was the first thing that made me audibly laugh on here in a while.
Paulo27 t1_je1ghwz wrote
And your post gets removed by the mods. Easy.
bake_disaster t1_je1zpq9 wrote
It doesn't though, because the mods gave up on trying to redirect people
Paulo27 t1_je24lfl wrote
Well then it's a problem with moderation but it's solvable.
Tim_Gilbert t1_je28c1y wrote
I wonder if they added a tag, like "identification", then auto removed every post with that tag and auto comment to go to the other sub.
Might be annoying to force people to tag in order to post though.
Queen__Antifa t1_je1d5tk wrote
Does what’sthisbird answer questions about birdsongs? Like if I linked a recording?
bake_disaster t1_je1i2e1 wrote
Most likely, they have previously at least
Westley_Never_Dies t1_je1q9cy wrote
Yes! With enthusiasm. They also are fantastic at identifying birds from sketches (of any skill level).
Maccaroney t1_je1epm7 wrote
Whats a sidebar
92894952620273749383 t1_je3rd7y wrote
>WhatsThisBird and Birding just gave up trying to redirect people because people can't read the sidebar
That's the problem. It should be the top bar.
nolo_me t1_je4735y wrote
The problem is people refusing to read the rules of a sub before posting.
CardinalPeeves t1_je1pzww wrote
r/etymology gets bug questions every once in a while. We like to play along.
drthvdrsfthr t1_je225vy wrote
r/chargers is the subreddit for the NFL team but will occasionally get questions on actual phone/electronic chargers
those get upvoted straight to the top lol
dahipster t1_je2r4ru wrote
We have the same issue for my football, aka soccer, team arsenal, or it's other subreddit r/gunners when a lost redditor posted about his old Winchester rifles. There was much mirth and merriment.
notHooptieJ t1_je3ndfq wrote
/FPV (first person view, Drones) gets a whole lot of /Fordperformancevehicles posts trying to sell their aussie ford..
nolo_me t1_je47505 wrote
That would bug me in ways I can't put into words.
IlexAquifolia t1_je19v7x wrote
Related issue with people asking r/whatisthisplant about fungi.
Dry-Gulch-Slim t1_je1awg7 wrote
I was gonna say they're idiots too but I realized there are plants I might think are fungi so maybe I'm the idiot.
IlexAquifolia t1_je1cy95 wrote
And then there’s the people who ask r/fungi about slime molds. When does it stop?!
FishFloyd t1_je1i9vr wrote
It stops there actually, because r/slimemolds is pretty inactive and r/mycology has a very helpful slime mold person who pops up and answers questions often. So the mods were just like fuck it, post your slimes here too.
StatusSea5409 t1_je1mbyr wrote
Certainly not at r/trees and r/marijuanaenthusiast
Dry-Gulch-Slim t1_je1f2hh wrote
You want to really fuck yourself up, try learning/working bacterial phylogeny. What is a species anymore?
wsippel t1_je48c3y wrote
I mean, slime molds were actually classified as fungi once, and most people don't keep up with classification changes, so that's totally understandable. Not to mention they are still commonly referred to as "mold", and not just in English.
IlexAquifolia t1_je4tomp wrote
Sure, but this is mostly people posting pictures of a weird thing they saw in the woods and asking if it's some kind of mushroom.
SoupOrSandwich t1_je1axq7 wrote
Can confirm people are morons. The worst questions are from essentially non-Redditors. Make an account. Search up the highest level category, type something better answered by Google and smash that post button!
chopsuwe t1_je1qmtf wrote
That's why we have the rule requiring basic research. Doesn't stop them following up with abusive modmails though.
AlexanderDaychilde t1_je23258 wrote
> Doesn't stop them following up with abusive modmails though.
These days, reddit has changed - report those modmails and a lot of the time they'll get warned. Escalating to permaban if they don't stop. So always report bad behaviour. It makes a difference.
chopsuwe t1_je23v6a wrote
We do. I wonder how effective that is though, it's hard to tell because they cant come back when banned.
AlexanderDaychilde t1_je2761x wrote
When you make a report, reddit will — eventually — give you a reply letting you know if the person did or didn't violate the rules.
For example, one I've gotten a little while ago:
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In this case, I had to report the user's comments in the subreddit, but after banning them, they were nasty in modmail so I reported that and got that.
The way to know if they got a warning or tempban from that is to click the modmail link (in your report, obvs you can't see my modmail) and click the user from there - if they're still available, a warning. If they're suspended, they've been previously warned and now it's a 3, 7, ot 30 day ban. :)
Dry-Gulch-Slim t1_je1bykh wrote
>Search up the highest level category, type something better answered by Google
These exactly describe my feelings. When you find a new sub, search by top all time and learn what is posted there. If you have a question, Google it. If it's not there or opinion-based, ask it.
penis-coyote t1_je1jyqn wrote
Not really. Mods often haven a misunderstanding of what people will use their forum for and try to over engineer their topic into a network of subs that gain no traction because there is no traction
Maoman1 OP t1_je1ko01 wrote
No solution will ever be 100% successful at keeping laymen out, but it's working well enough. Any posts that make it past the sidebar, stickied post, warning messages, trap flair, and automoderator filters simply get reported by users instead and I remove them manually and refer them with a macro. It's a small subreddit so that only happens a few times a week.
edit: I'm confused why this comment would be controversial.
Dry-Gulch-Slim t1_je1lz5r wrote
I didn't mean it as a slight, I appreciate any mod who works to keep their sub on track. It was more an expression of frustration at the people that can't figure out a sidebar or Google.
It may be built up aggression to some of my favorite small subs.
chopsuwe t1_je1rh4w wrote
To be fair the Reddit Admins have tried very hard to make it worse by removing the sidebar in mobile, hiding the rules, limiting the character count of each rule and ensuring that sticky posts are not sticky unless sorting by Hot. Well over half the users never see the rules.
Dry-Gulch-Slim t1_je1w7a8 wrote
That's another thing that gets me. Who uses the "official" reddit app? Stop it! (*Slaps hand*)
Maoman1 OP t1_je1nfnu wrote
I didn't take it as a slight and I'm sorry if my comment sounded annoyed or anything. I was just explaining myself.
Dry-Gulch-Slim t1_je1oqfb wrote
I mean I just learned those two subs existed and I'm looking for a new hobby so this interaction has been great!
chopsuwe t1_je24b2j wrote
> It was more an expression of frustration at the people that can't figure out a sidebar or Google.
Speaking of which, experienced users and mods wouldn't do that would they u/Maoman1?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY/wiki/guidelines#wiki_prohibited_projects_.2F_general_tips
Maoman1 OP t1_je2bjo9 wrote
Exactly, and I said as much in the second half of this reply
chopsuwe t1_je2dcy4 wrote
Check rule 2 of Prohibited Projects / General Tips in my link ;-)
Maoman1 OP t1_je2ls5y wrote
Oh. lol Sorry! In my defense this wasn't a trade question or I'd have researched more, like I described.
I've never seen a subreddit that banned meta posts though. What's the reasoning for that?
chopsuwe t1_je2og0m wrote
Almost all meta posts are either complaints that [thing the user doesn't like] is killing the sub or complaints that their rule breaking post was removed. Either way our preferred method of handling those is having a civil conversation in modmail where we explain the reasoning and suggest ways they can comply with the rules. It's far more constructive than the drama some subs generate. We're not interested in drama, we just wans a nice place to make stuff.
Maoman1 OP t1_je2r0hi wrote
Hmm. I guess I can see where you're coming from, but I'd still disagree with banning all meta posts like that. But then, I moderate a much smaller subreddit, so I can afford some nuance. Back when I was mod at /r/NoStupidQuestions we relied on broad strokes as well--we had no choice, given the sheer volume of comments we had to go through. Thank you for not removing my post, despite my not checking with y'all first.
>[thing the user doesn't like] is killing the sub
I usually leave these kinds of posts up so I can see people's responses. They are almost invariably mocked and downvoted to hell and the user slinks away shamefaced. On the rare occasion they are not, I learn something about my community. Feedback from users is invaluable.
>complaints that their rule breaking post was removed
That sounds like a great way to get yourself upgraded to a tempban to me.
The-PageMaster t1_je44x2l wrote
So funny though right! Breaking a rule in one sub while trying to keep people from doing so in your own. These subreddit rules are like HOAs.
Please read the following 35000 rules and sub-rules to see if you qualify to comment on this comment....
Also in your defense, you didn't read the rules.
Rules.
Rules.
Rules.
Astavri t1_je3acmu wrote
I'm just looking at the subscriptions and there's 10x more at locksmiths.
The problem as I've experienced with other subs is the right type of repliers in the sub to answer the questions.
Ie. Users may ask a question in the layman sub but may not get an answer or not a good one, so one may have better chances in the more subscribed subreddit.
ThxItsadisorder t1_je1nqo6 wrote
Most questions asked on reddit should be googled first. Like when I see a question I just google it and then compare the answer to the comments and most of the time google had it right. Are they not teaching folks how to use web searches correctly? Before I ask a question I type it into reddit search and read those first.
jdjdthrow t1_je1ptjc wrote
It's like a /r/DesirePath/ for the general redditor public.
Circumstances permitting, perhaps the people with the niche subject interest could make a separate subreddit and leave the general name to the masses.
Dry-Gulch-Slim t1_je1vjy6 wrote
They can, but the problem is getting subscribers. Like if I want to talk about biology I'd Google "reddit sub for biology" or whatever. What's going to pop up first?
Catnip4Pedos t1_je1vtpy wrote
Its not that people are idiots but the algorithm directs people to bigger subs
Dry-Gulch-Slim t1_je1wpf9 wrote
Biology isn't even a big one. Hell I've been here forever and I subbed to whatsthisbug long before I subbed to arr-Biology. But you make a good point about the algorithms.
I still maintain that people are idiots. That just seems to include the people that force users into places using the algorithms.
Kimorin t1_je4y7b8 wrote
r/whatsthisbug sounds like a subreddit for really clueless software developers
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