StoneTemplePilates t1_iybo28v wrote on November 30, 2022 at 4:51 AM

Reply to comment by dominus_aranearum in Garbage Disposal wired directly into Dishwasher - fixing wiring and adding outlets by TonyFugginMontana

No it doesn't. Now you're just making shit up. Please cite the nec code that says so.

It is not unsafe. A junction box is a junction box, and it doesn't matter whether it is attached to the wall or to the dishwasher.

dominus_aranearum t1_iybp9fc wrote on November 30, 2022 at 5:02 AM

314.16

StoneTemplePilates t1_iybulcz wrote on November 30, 2022 at 5:57 AM

Here's the j-box on my dishwasher. 6in wide, 1-1/4in deep, 2-1/8in tall puts it just under 16in^3. Even taking a very conservative 1in^3 inch out for the connector in there, it's still plenty big enough for another 12/2 wire.

dominus_aranearum t1_iybvpf1 wrote on November 30, 2022 at 6:10 AM

That's your dishwasher. Personally, I've never seen one that size, but it obviously exists.

What's really a shame is that you told me I was making shit up, basically calling me a liar. When I'm wrong, I admit it. Already did with the neutral at the switch. I own up to my mistakes because I learn from them. Rather than admit you made a mistake when I point out the NEC code for j-box fill requirements that you asked for, you instead go through the trouble of opening up yours to prove what? That yours is big enough. In the dozens I've installed/removed over my remodel career, I've never seen one that big. The code requirement is still there and is something to pay attention to.

StoneTemplePilates t1_iybw7bh wrote on November 30, 2022 at 6:15 AM

Lol, I sure didn't make any mistake. I asked what code you were referring to since you seemed to be stating that the new dishwasher requires all wiring it connects to to be brought up to code. If I thought you were referring to j-box size, I'd have told you you were wrong to begin with.

Also, the "trouble" of opening mine up was three screws. What kind of lazy electrician are you, anyway? I told you you're making shit up, because you are. You're all over this post citing nec and so far you've been wrong more than you've been right.

Edit: I also just saw your other comment about the space required being 13.25in^3. that's not correct either, because you are assuming the clamp is inside the box, which it usually is not, especially on a small box. With a very common size being around 2"x2"x3", I'd wager that just about any dishwasher j-box is big enough or very close to it.