Submitted by teddythepooh99 t3_10p9q2x in DIY
Guygan t1_j6j46pd wrote
First, what causes it? Simple physics. Humid air in contact with a cold surface = liquid water.
You need to attack it from both sides: First, take humidity out of the air. Dehumidifiers are an easy solution. Second, make the window glass less cold. That means better insulated windows, which you probably can't do in a rental.
In any case, the mold isn't gonna hurt you. The whole "EHRMEGERD TOXIC MOLD!" is nonsense. Spray the sill with some mildew cleaner that you use in your shower every week and you won't see any mold on your sill.
CorvisTaxidea t1_j6jln0m wrote
Mold allergies are common, so yes, mold can cause health issues.
MagicSPA t1_j6jyzy2 wrote
You were doing fine until you said mold isn't going to hurt you.
If you think "toxic mold is nonsense", then check out Stachybotris atra, Stachybotris chartarum, and others:
Guygan t1_j6jz2s6 wrote
https://www.cdc.gov/mold/faqs.htm
> There are very few reports that toxigenic molds found inside homes can cause unique or rare health conditions such as pulmonary hemorrhage or memory loss. These case reports are rare, and a causal link between the presence of the toxigenic mold and these conditions has not been proven.
MagicSPA t1_j6jzts6 wrote
From that exact same page:
>Some people are sensitive to molds. For these people, exposure to molds can lead to symptoms such as stuffy nose, wheezing, and red or itchy eyes, or skin. Some people, such as those with allergies to molds or with asthma, may have more intense reactions. Severe reactions may occur among workers exposed to large amounts of molds in occupational settings, such as farmers working around moldy hay. Severe reactions may include fever and shortness of breath.
>In 2004 the Institute of Medicine (IOM) found there was sufficient evidence to link indoor exposure to mold with upper respiratory tract symptoms, cough, and wheeze in otherwise healthy people; with asthma symptoms in people with asthma; and with hypersensitivity pneumonitis in individuals susceptible to that immune-mediated condition.
>In 2009, the World Health Organization issued additional guidance, the WHO Guidelines for Indoor Air Quality: Dampness and Mould. Other recent studies have suggested a potential link of early mold exposure to development of asthma in some children, particularly among children who may be genetically susceptible to asthma development, and that selected interventions that improve housing conditions can reduce morbidity from asthma and respiratory allergies.
Thanks for proving me right. I appreciate it.
Guygan t1_j6k006v wrote
Apparently, you need to learn what "toxic" means.
MagicSPA t1_j6k0uk8 wrote
No, I clearly don't, but you need to learn what "toxigenic" means.
Here, let me help you out:
toxigenic: producing a toxin or toxic effect
That PERFECTLY describes the effect of harmful molds. Thanks for your time, you've been a very determined learner.
Guygan t1_j6k1gs6 wrote
So is dog dander that gives me asthma "toxic"? How about dust? That gives me nasal symptoms. How about tree pollen that makes me sneeze?
MagicSPA t1_j6k3016 wrote
Then your response to dog dander and pollen sound allergenic rather than toxigenic per se.
Exposure to dust can likewise cause blockage, irritation, and problems with abrasion not related to actual toxicity.
Hope this helps you out!
Guygan t1_j6k3cqb wrote
Right. And the CDC text you quoted says molds can produce allergic effects. Toxic effects have never been proven.
Gunter5 t1_j6jp5fv wrote
The plastic wraps may help. Found in any home improvement store
MikeW86 t1_j6k7z6x wrote
>The whole "EHRMEGERD TOXIC MOLD!" is nonsense.
Would you like to tell Awaab Ishak that he isn't actually dead then
Guygan t1_j6k89ov wrote
Take up your argument with the US CDC and their many scientists and doctors. I trust the CDC over The Guardian. Thanks.
MikeW86 t1_j6k8rfg wrote
Show me something from the CDC that says mould isn't dangerous then.
Guygan t1_j6kab5v wrote
I said the "Toxic mold" hysteria is baseless. I didn't say people can't be allergic to it. I am allergic to it.
MikeW86 t1_j6k97uw wrote
Either the guardian is reporting falsehoods or the coroner is wrong, which is it?
Guygan t1_j6ka1ne wrote
Probably both.
You trust a UK coroner over the US CDC?
ShambolicPaul t1_j6jt7ty wrote
Or bleach. Straight bleach kills and prevents new growth. Toxic mould is a thing. If you don't or can't keep on top of it.
Guygan t1_j6jyzwo wrote
> Toxic mould is a thing.
They exist, but affects on humans have never been proven
> There are very few reports that toxigenic molds found inside homes can cause unique or rare health conditions such as pulmonary hemorrhage or memory loss. These case reports are rare, and a causal link between the presence of the toxigenic mold and these conditions has not been proven.
erleichda29 t1_j6k5ktn wrote
So your ignorant argument is that mold doesn't kill people? Why are you so eager to convince total strangers that it's not a big deal to be exposed to mold?
Guygan t1_j6k63b4 wrote
I am just posting what the scientists at the CDC have to say about the myth of "toxic mold".
If you don't agree with the CDC, take it up with them, Doctor.
erleichda29 t1_j6k6cdx wrote
Whatever. You are the one that started talking about "toxic mold".
Guygan t1_j6k6hr4 wrote
Correct. You get a cookie for at least that bit of proper reading comprehension.
erleichda29 t1_j6ka3bs wrote
So who are you arguing with then?
Guygan t1_j6kaf27 wrote
I'll ask you the same question. You just commented, so....
DiggSucksNow t1_j6k7uyi wrote
Did you read any of that link? There are paragraphs and paragraphs of all the things mold can do to both allergic and non-allergic people.
Guygan t1_j6k7z2w wrote
And none of them are “toxin” related.
erleichda29 t1_j6k592a wrote
You are completely wrong about mold not hurting anyone. I have asthma from living in a moldy house. Please stop spreading misinformation.
Guygan t1_j6k689j wrote
I also get asthma and sniffles from mold.
Read the CDC text I posted. The idea that mold is "toxic" has never been proven.
erleichda29 t1_j6k9w57 wrote
I NEVER ONCE USED THE TERM "TOXIC MOLD". Read user names.
missionbeach t1_j6jwtd0 wrote
> some mildew cleaner that you use in your shower every week
You are assuming facts not in evidence.
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