Submitted by [deleted] t3_12386l5 in Futurology
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M3629 t1_jdto577 wrote
Laws of physics can change or new ones be added. Its just a set of rules humans set in physics, but that's only based off of the physics that humans know now. Once AI comes in, all kinds of new knowledge about physics come in, developing new knowledge, and changing our own laws of physics/modifying them. So according to our current laws of physics, a shrink ray might be impossible, but with how intelligent AI would become, it could find and learn new physics that we're not even close to, then possible from that.
Lirdon t1_jdtnesg wrote
No, you can’t effectively shrink anything without crushing it. The atom is like 90% empty space, but it is maintained by nuclear forces. To shrink it you need to actually crush things with suck force that it effectively destroy anything. There are places in the universe where these forces are overcome but these places are rather extreme. Like centers of stars, where overcoming the nuclear forces starts the fusion reactions.
Nature does not allow for “shrinking”.
M3629 t1_jdtoalh wrote
Laws of physics can change or new ones be added. Its just a set of rules humans set in physics, but that's only based off of the physics that humans know now. Once AI comes in, all kinds of new knowledge about physics come in, developing new knowledge, and changing our own laws of physics/modifying them. So according to our current laws of physics, a shrink ray might be impossible, but with how intelligent AI would become, it could find and learn new physics that we're not even close to, then possible from that.
Lirdon t1_jdtopu8 wrote
So you’re basically saying, why won’t we throw all that we know and validated by experiments throughout the last century and just do some magic because AI will figure it out. Why ask the question then? Why do you care what anyone else says? Why did you post this?
wantsoutofthefog t1_jdtq9sj wrote
Right? "Laws can change" is so flippant. The sun can turn blue. Doesnt mean it will or that it can with the magic of AI
M3629 t1_jdtqazz wrote
Just wanted to see your opinion on this. But your right, with how intelligent AI would become, it literally would become like magic and just figure it all out for us lol. There were a few researchers saying that AI would become so intelligent in inventing new technology, that it would be almost impossible to predict what society will be like beyond a few days or a week because Artificial Super Intelligence would be making many world-changing inventions every single day, the world be drastically different again and again just a few days after its previous invention. And this would be happening millions of times within just one year? In this way, the future itself will become an event horizon, where like I said the future would be impossible to see beyond a few days or a week. With that level of capability, like c'mon, a shrink ray doesn't seem that far off lol. I'm sure it's capable of finding physics that we haven't even imagined.
Skreame t1_jdtrsbn wrote
Even ignoring your complete lack of understanding in theoretical reasoning, on a practical standpoint, understanding does not give any means to physically accomplishing any of what you’re talking about. Even if you broke the bounds of natural occurrence with scientific method, you would also have to simultaneously create an environment where it is allowed to exist. Our universe is predicated on major and minor forces that all other existence adheres to. You’re trying to justify a manipulation in isolation without considering that everything and anything is in a dimension of constant motion and transfer of energy.
M3629 t1_jdttgzv wrote
Simple, the AI would just be able to manipulate the living being in such a way that the being's body can adapt and survive in the environment while having a shrunken down body. It's completely possible to manipulate the body already with today's technology, an AI could do that beyond any of our means. The AI could manipulate the individual cells, manipulate the individual atoms, in a way where a human, for example, would still maintain its normal "human" physical state while being shrunken down. If we have shrunken someone down today without current knowledge, they would just turn into a pile of mush, but with the AI modifying the individual elements of the physical body, it could adapt to such a transition, and adapt to the environment as you said, allowing the body to be fine and they would still be themselves.
Skreame t1_jdtwt1j wrote
The fact that you can even say what you’re saying speaks to such a level of naivety that reasoning with you is a series of levels far away from anything possible. Have you considered why even condensing material on a molecular level such as coal to diamond changes its properties so dramatically? Have you considered the mere fact that splitting a single atom releases enough energy to create a blast on the scale of an atomic bomb? You’re talking in fantasy where you simply want one thing without considering the infinite implications of the surroundings or why everything exists the way it does in the first place from trillions of years ago all the way until today. It’s extremely ignorant.
Erocdotusa t1_jdtnl0n wrote
I think we'd have to figure out worm holes first and ways to transport matter
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Chard069 t1_jdtp52n wrote
Can material objects be techno-magically shrunk-down in size? Possibly. Would living organisms survive the shrinking process? Try it and report back, hey? 8-)
UniqueClimate t1_jdtmvw6 wrote
Yes.
The question is how long. 1000 years, or 10 years, too early to tell.
But eventually yes, as long as it’s scientifically possible.
rixtil41 t1_jdtmxqx wrote
Unless our physics is wrong, then no. You can't just compact something and have the same structure.