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infidel_castro_26 t1_je5mqo2 wrote

you first need to spend some time understanding what capitalism actually is.

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tnic73 t1_je5rfc6 wrote

do education us

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infidel_castro_26 t1_je6auii wrote

i mean in a very broad term that won't offend anyone it is the mode of production that begun around the 16th or 17th century. by mode of production you can also think of it as a way to organise the economy.

biggest parts of this system are centred around which private property, markets and firms. And principally capital.

everything after that is partly controversial. i have my own thoughts. that i'll mostly keep to myself. but i just want to justify why i said what i said.

>Companies will still sell products, bills will still have to be paid, money will still have to be exchanged (for example, for robotaxis). All of these will cost money and require capitalism in order to operate

there are still ways to bend or break capitalism (depending on your viewpoint) and keep these things. that's partly why i bring this up. people sometimes believe using money == capitalism. which is obviously not true as we've had money much longer than capitalism.

capitalism is a specific system defined by all its parts and their relationship. it's a complicated moving system.

>before anyone says “the government will provide everything” planned / government run economies don’t work and history shows that

history shows that robots do not work. every attempt so far has failed. i'm not putting forward this argument to say that a completely panned economy is the way. just to show how the logic is faulty.

>if everything was run by the government that would basically stifle innovation

this is a pretty clear indicator that the poster is presenting his understanding of a dichotomy that just does not really exist. that is either we have a non-capitalist mode of production where the government runs everything or we have what we have now.

personally i don't even disagree with the overall point OP is making. there's nothing incompatible with a real abundance in everything including labour and market dynamics. it's just i'm pretty pessimistic about what that would entail.

we're already seeing the ever-shrinking pool of ownership. i don't see why that wouldn't continue until even our last illusionary safety ladder of labour and hard work is taken away.

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