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phine-phurniture t1_je6ubr0 wrote

Homo Economicas... Unfortunately issue fatigue has become the rule any compelling argument ends up attached to someone who tells us what we want to hear not what we need to hear.... they cant get elected otherwise.

I believe that this ironically the reason we have extremism the dialectic is out of whack with real world needs..

Dont forget "the will to power" and our primitive aspects.

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Galactus_Jones762 OP t1_je6v4b0 wrote

Good points. Our primitive aspects are real. My hope is to get them out in the open to be examined. Just as man has always struggled, man also shows consistent capacity to slowly improve morally. It doesn’t happen by itself. It happens thru ideas and leadership that grow into movements that turn into change. There have always been the cynics and there have always been the idealists. There is massive futility in both, but less so for the idealists and dreamers, who rightfully own all the positive changes that have occurred in history, and when you add them up, you must admit there are MANY. Today’s idealists are no different. Most of us are spitting in the wind, but it is the combined efforts of millions that lead to the few whose names are associated with change. Which team are you on: that’s the only remaining question.

Your point about the mechanics of rhetoric and confirmation bias is astute. Articulating the problem is half of finding a solution, so you’re doing good work. Thank you.

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phine-phurniture t1_je71nyk wrote

Massive futility..... :)

Pessimism in outlook MUST be accompanied with optimism of the will..

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Galactus_Jones762 OP t1_je71t64 wrote

You’re big into Nietzsche, sounds like.

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phine-phurniture t1_je8jbaa wrote

Nah my conception of will to power is likely more derogatory than his.

It is very important to contribute to the dialog of change as you never know when you touch a truth and in sharing it give a butterfly wings...

:)

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Galactus_Jones762 OP t1_je8jech wrote

So you are saying will to power in a sarcastic way?

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phine-phurniture t1_je8jx5r wrote

I see it as a blind instinct that lurks in the dark parts of our egos... and yes I think I do.

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Galactus_Jones762 OP t1_je8lp5q wrote

Yeah that sounds about right. Sometimes I think the diff between Kant and Nietzsche is the difference between what we want to be true and sadly what is actually true. Although…

If it’s true that we want something to be true, eventually it will be, even if we have to fucking tear into our brains or genes and tinker with them until we powerfully will the will to power to it’s knees.

Nietzsche can’t hide from Galactus. I wield the power cosmic.

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