psychocopter t1_ir3d6i1 wrote on October 5, 2022 at 12:58 AM

Reply to comment by Lorion97 in EU votes to force all phones to use same charger by 2024 by WallStreetDoesntBet

If somehow they manage to skirt around this legislation by removing the charging port they probably won't include a charging cable/brick in the box. Everyone seems to be moving away from offering a charging cable with their device and trying to justify it every which way to avoid saying it was to make them more money.

Bensemus t1_is7rprc wrote on October 13, 2022 at 10:30 PM

Apple still includes a cable. They don't include the brick. The EU is looking to make this law too to reduce on e-waste.

Landmen t1_ir3dkxf wrote on October 5, 2022 at 1:01 AM

If they all went wireless charging I would be perfectly fine with that. Or a magsafe style connector. USB C standards are far too fucked up right now.

psychocopter t1_ir6fy5v wrote on October 5, 2022 at 5:58 PM

Nah, wireless should be an included option, not the only option. Have you ever used your phone while it was charging? An actual cable makes that much easier. Mag safe is another proprietary charging method that nothing outside of apples ecosystem uses. Also how are usb c standards fucked up? Are you talking about usb in general with gen 1, 2, 3.1 gen 1, 3.1 gen 2, and thunderbolt? You do know that magsafe also uses usb right?

Landmen t1_ir7rswu wrote on October 5, 2022 at 11:18 PM

I can't just buy a cable that provides me the fastest possible charging speed plus data transfer without doing a ton of research. That's my problem with USB c. Then there is the issue compatible chargers.

psychocopter t1_ir8xwr1 wrote on October 6, 2022 at 5:36 AM

Yes you can, you're only considering an apple branded magsafe charger when third party versions exist that require you to do the same research(its usb c to magsafe, even if the magsafe connector is standardized the rest of the cable and usb c connector may not be). The same goes with lightning. That would be like considering samsung usb c chargers as the one and only cable you can buy. These aren't really problems that actually exist, you can very easily find a high speed reputable type c charger, if Apple is forced to support type c then you'd also be able to just buy apple's type c cable if you dont trust another brand. My problem with lightning is that only iphones use them, the ipad, MacBook, etc use type c, it works on nothing else so it becomes ewasye should you switch to a different phone(the longer they force lightning the more e-waste is produced). On top of it lightning is a worse cable than type c, it cannot support the power delivery and data transfer that type c can, its just overall a worse cable. Apple switching to type c doesn't make an iPhone less apple, it just makes it a better device with a cable that can be used for more than one device.