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matpompili OP t1_isq2kpe wrote

LOL, they do go into one of their joint possible states instantly across any distance! The "issue" is that you cannot extract any faster-than-light messaging technology from this.

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SomeoneSomewhere1984 t1_isqab2c wrote

I think we just don't know how to use if for that yet, but think we'll figure out a way at some point in the distant future.

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Specialist-Doctor-23 t1_isqf0oq wrote

Of course we could. One only needs the remote means to detect, in real time, any of the states of the remote particle and the ability to control the same state of its twin. Of course, this only confers an advantage when the distance (and therefore the time required for a light-speed message) between pairs exceeds the response time of such quantum state message system.

Oh! And some way to establish and sustain control and observation of entangled pairs😏

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Exodus111 t1_isreqlt wrote

It could likely be used for interstellar communication.

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runswithcoyotes t1_isrt18g wrote

Why not? Any change is itself a message.

Edit: to whoever downvoted me, you obviously don’t understand signaling. Any change in states, is at the very least a binary message. Couple that with timing, and multiple bits, and you’ve got yourself a full-fledged messaging platform. Egg heads like OP here aren’t able to explain why this wont work. I’m happy to listen to an explanation, if one could just be provided.

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runswithcoyotes t1_it4yed7 wrote

Ah, thanks! So I this explains why you can’t send specific values:

If you force one side to change, it breaks the entanglement. UNLESS you modify the state in a way that you can compare the changes that led to the state later. I don’t really understand why that is, and will need to dig into the nested links to find out.

> Alice and Bob end up with measurements that are perfectly correlated, no information passes between them. They can only see the correlation when they get back together and compare lists, and they have to do that at or below the speed of light.

But! My question wasn’t actually about specific states, it was about changes in states. Which.. to me still seems possible.

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