Good catch on the "not" actually solving problem. I hate having to use qwerty and autocorrect.

Absolutely the environmental impact issue and human sustainability crisis is much broader than this, but this post and ensuing debate was focused on plastics. Plastics are 100% a human created problem and requires a human solution, because the impacts are broader than to just humans. I agree we shouldn't use shitty metrics that are meaningless or left undefined. And please stop with the replacing one product with an inferior or worse product. Only a crazy person would do that. Oh shit, I just realized that is really about capitalism. The feasibility or cost of effort to do what is obviously right versus what is cost effective. Because inferior products are brought to market all by the time because there is demand for cheap, lesser quality and convenient, right?. That may be a current reality, but it is not and should not be a constraint to the solution. Inferior products on any dimension, simply should not be produced. The issue isn't if a plastic spork is replaced by lead paint coated uranium spork (I know I'm being ridiculous). It's that plastic shouldn't even be an option, let alone any uranium based consumer products 😉 It's lunacy to create lesser quality product of any kind if a product of equal or greater exists and meets the demand, especially one that has poor sustainability and environmental impacts It's absurd that we consider ourselves evolved beings and yet continue to put a monetary cost and thus price to our excess, greed and gluttony. But I digress .. But this debate has long departed from the core.

I think the statement holds that the planet and all entities within this diverse ecosystem we call home would be much better off if plastics could be completely eliminated. I know that should be the goal, which is an easy metric to count, plastic production= 0. Anything less is inadequate.

Anyways, it's been a pleasure. I wish you all the best!

P.S. - you hd a few decent points. Wrong, but decent. ,😄