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ilrosewood t1_ixavxta wrote

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From a legal perspective I have to wonder what is the practical difference.

I guess from an abstract I have to wonder what the actual difference is.

It depends on the type of machine learning employed but in some respects, in the abstract, I don’t see much of a difference.

If I look at a lm OSS project and see a clever way a function was handled and then I use that method later - not the whole code, just the method - some would say that’s OK and others would say I’d be violating the OSS license.

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darkstarmatr t1_ixax1gn wrote

There’s nothing abstract about it though. Someone intentionally designed a program that takes raw data from established artists without their permission and sure, it isn’t directly copying the art. But it wouldn’t exist without the actual human imagination and effort.

AI is not as complex as a human brain, and I could never give it credit for stealing data and generating “art” based on stolen data.

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ilrosewood t1_ixayl0g wrote

I’d argue art and open source code are different.

Open source code I or a machine should be able to learn from.

Public art I suppose doesn’t have a license attached to it. But if I learned to paint by studying other paintings for years - am I as guilty as the computer in your mind?

(To be clear - I don’t have an answer. I find the topic interesting and I don’t firmly believe anything here yet. I know Reddit is full of trolls and bots and the like so please know I enjoy reading your replies. Thank you.)

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darkstarmatr t1_ixb3xdc wrote

The difference between the computer taking actual data to learn, and a human using their time, effort and imagination to learn are the key differences here. Studying others art is a respectable way for beginning artists to learn, and it's advice that most professionals would give to a beginner. But that's because humans need patience and practice on their own, to learn this way.

I don't consider it the same as say, an algorithm scraping the internet for art, and using that data to generate art in similar styles. Because it's not human, and there's no time, effort or imagination to respect. That's my perspective anyway.

The AI art is kind of cool, somewhat. But the fact that it NEEDS real artists works to even function, is an issue. Artists should have been given a choice to opt into a program if they wanted their art used as data.

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