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fartingwiffvengeance t1_ixg2q8m wrote

The delivery fee they charge us… I bet it doesn’t go to the driver am I right ?

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RampantRooster t1_ixg3daz wrote

I can only speak from my own experience, and I worked as a driver from about May 2011 to July 2015 at Papa John's.

At the time, our delivery fee was $2, and I got $1 per delivery flat for mileage. So the answer is "partly". The boxes we used at the time had the whole "the delivery fee isn't paid out to the driver, so please tip" thing, but it wasn't 100% true. I don't know how it's changed since.

I got 100% of the tip, minus any I tipped out to the in store workers.

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fartingwiffvengeance t1_ixg66ha wrote

I ordered not long ago. Currently it is a five dollar delivery fee. Then they go on to say please appreciate our drivers (because we don’t) and leave them a tip. I was cynical believing that the mandatory five dollar fee goes to the store and not to the driver who is actually doing the delivering and also risking their ass out there. I normally don’t do any delivery but I had Covid. I didn’t want to go out and infect people for pizza.

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RampantRooster t1_ixg998x wrote

It's gotten stupid, and I've seen the same amounts for delivery fees.

To be honest, I'd fully believe it's just greed and the store is pocketing most, if not all, of that five bucks. But I don't know for sure, obviously.

For what it's worth, I did also make minimum wage hourly. It wasn't that sort of situation where I got less hourly because tips. 7+ years ago, me making ~$16/hour after tips and before gas and vehicle maintenance was actually pretty decent for a college student where I lived. Those 8-9 hour weekend closing shifts where I'd go home with $130 in my pocket were pretty nice.

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fartingwiffvengeance t1_ixgcxg0 wrote

oh yea... i used to wipe down cars for tips. I came home with more singles than a stripper.

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PrinceDusk t1_ixgpt8a wrote

currently driving for Papa John's, yea. Technically you could think of it as "partly" but it's basically just an increase in food price by a different name.

At $3.50 an order, in my delivery area to go to the farthest point is maybe 12 miles round trip, I'm getting paid $0.45/mi, which actually by my math is $5.40 to be fair, however, we normally take 2 or more deliveries per trip, also the VAST majority of our orders is within a mile of us, so going on 2-3 miles round trip for most of our orders that makes only $0.90-$1.20 of that $3.50.

If I make 15 runs in a shift (maybe a slightly high average for me) I make the store about $52.50 minimum, and I get $1-2 per run for mileage, so that means about half the delivery fee, at best, makes it to me and I'm getting 5.50/hr driving and if I average $2 in mileage then I'm still not hitting federal minimum wage without someone tipping. And if you don't tip to stick it to the business then you're just kicking the poor driver that's just trying to make some money without breaking their back or shelling out a ton for college...

moral of the story, if you get something delivered and don't tip then you're just hurting a server, the delivery fee is not a tip and mileage paid can fluctuate. If you don't like delivery fees or tipping, then - with all due respect - use your own car to go get your own food.

(none of any perceived salt was directed at you specifically, fartingwiffvengeance)

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erath_droid t1_ixgs4i7 wrote

I mean... it's printed on the box that the delivery fee doesn't go to the driver...

They ain't even hiding it...

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