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Karasumor1 t1_ixho0xu wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in On The Rising Non-Working Class (And What Their Despair Says About Us All) by capcaunul

it's not about enjoying the job or finding passion imo some of us just can't get exploited and pretend it's all fine and dandy... why waste away in an unnecessary or even harmful wage-slavery just to pay a useless landlord

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majarian t1_ixhtbhd wrote

Shit I spent a decade building houses ill never be able to afford just to get priced out of renting in the area and losing my job due to it.....

I give I can't work my ass off just to get layed off between projects every time, my mother biyches about working for a bank for fourty years I'd be tickled if an electrical outfit would keep us around for more that two.... took a way less stressful job at less pay and I'll just rent till i die I guess

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Karasumor1 t1_ixhrtu9 wrote

decades of suffering and exploitation , being forced to exist in the unlivable hellhole of capitalism does absurd damage to mental health and a lot of it can't be fixed while the root cause is still causing harm

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Salahuddin315 t1_ixhwxmz wrote

Yeah, right. "I refuse to be exploited by the capitalist society, so I'm going to exploit my parents and my girlfriend by leeching money out of them to watch Netflix all day." Very compelling.

Anyone can be a socialist when there is someone else to pay for their socialism. Mr. Eberstadt is clearly an educated and polite man, so he tactfully skirted around saying this directly, but he gives the answer in plain sight. If those guys' parents and partners stopped carrying their lazy deadbeat asses, they'd be back on track in no time.

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New2thegame t1_ixhs7x0 wrote

I generally agree... however, I think the principle is that if you try hard, even a menial job can give you a sense of pride when done well. It also gives you a sense of pride to know that you have provided for yourself, your needs, and the needs of your loved ones, even if, or especially if you did it by enduring a crappy job. Think of the people who work in the fields for 12 hours a day. There's not a lot of pride that comes from giving up. Sure you can survive, but survival is different than pride. At the end of the day, whether we like it or not, people need something to be proud of and I think there's something significant about knowing that you have endured enough to provide for yourself. Just a humble thought.

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DeltaV-Mzero t1_ixifzxe wrote

I appreciate your thoughts but do not think you can apply it universally

some people will get a sense of pride form having worked a tough job and gotten a sub-living wage

Others will do the same job, get no gratification from it at all, and dread the prospect of wasting 80% of their waking hours of life doing something they hate

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etzel1200 t1_ixhsu03 wrote

Because that’s how society functions. Instead you just end up a parasite. Work moves society forward.

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