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PopeHonkersVII t1_iy8xmk6 wrote

After seeing myth vs reality with Russian military equipment and technology, I suspect that China's boasting is nothing more than empty propaganda.

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hectichead22 t1_iy97uoo wrote

Hard to tell really, they seem to get the attention of other world leaders whenever they speak. That's not an indication of an impotent country. You got a link?

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Timbershoe t1_iy9a8df wrote

The general feeling on China is that they are not building an offensive military, it’s designed as a deterrent, force projection and status symbol:

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/chinas-hollow-military/

That’s largely born out of the fact that, aside from some border conflicts, China doesn’t involve itself in wars. China is only interested in what it perceives as Chinese territory, and that would be the land and waters historically under control of China. That has been true of China for over a thousand years.

The US, as a comparison, is almost wholly offensive in nature. It’s built to win wars, and often engages in them. The US is not involved in border disputes, but wars on the other side of the world.

China does not appear to be interested in a war, it has no reason to. And the military reflects that, all show and little substance.

So while China absolutely has the ability to create a powerful military, what it’s actually created isn’t all that effective for a modern conflict.

But it makes good news to play up the China threat. They certainly talk the talk, even if in reality they show no sign of offence military plans.

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hectichead22 t1_iy9ex7z wrote

Who needs a competent invading military force when you got those big explodey things? You're right on with your points about America and it's lucrative involvement in continuous wars and China's focus being more insular than invasive other than economically. I think that the argument that my guns bigger than your gun becomes obsolete when both are holding enough explosives to wipe out all living existence of the planet. Which of course both do, many times over.

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Fausterion18 t1_iya51u6 wrote

It's readily obvious that the Chinese military is incapable of any large scale offensives. It hasn't invested into the massive scale logistics required for such a task and its military procurement is focused on increasing its technology base rather than deployment.

There's constantly stories about this new Chinese weapon or that new Chinese weapon, but how many of these new weapons do they actually buy? Compare how many J-20s China has to how many F-35s the US is buying and you have your answer.

Not to mention every now and then the PLA actually gets deployed for disaster relief and so far its been a logistical shit show. They couldn't even feed their troops and the troops had to rely on locals for food.

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hectichead22 t1_iyag0yw wrote

You make the mistake of thinking military might is judged on the willingness to invade other countries and show what you have and profiteering off selling weapons that you make for yourselves to other countries. China dosn't do that as far as I know. It doesn't mean they don't make them, they maybe just keep them. THEY DONT GET INVOLVED IN THE UNSAVOURY BUISNESSES OF PROFITEERING FROM WAR. Unlike USA, France and the UK who have it as possibly one of the most profitable economic investments. It's just Dumb with a capital D to judge the capability of China from the blinkered standpoint of a western cultural value system. DUMB!

I learned today that the USA tested nuclear bombs on the bikini Islands after the war at a rate of one a day for 12 years. Do the math. Kinda makes me wonder what the countries that weren't causing the global warming shitshow we have today we're doing since 1946 in regards of technology and advancing weapons. Just cos you haven't seen them dosnt mean they don't exist. Not all country's are so keen to be warmongers and display there shit like ... Well... The west.

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hatefulreason t1_iy9c58z wrote

building some artificial islands and military bases in their surrounding countries will convince them of our peaceful nature

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PacJeans t1_iy992cf wrote

Besides, why is how a part is manufactured a matter of importance.

We have a high tech, experienced army. We don't even machine our parts anymore!

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