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coyote-1 t1_j10x18l wrote

What I am advocating for is machinery to be machinery. Just because some machine somehow becomes ‘intelligent’ does not mean I have to keep feeding it energy in order to keep doing its thing. Machinery exists to serve us, and that’s how it needs to remain.

That is a faaaaar different thing than advocating for the enslavement of living creatures. Else my coffee machine will soon have the same rights as I have. That would just be silly.

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guymine123 t1_j10xwbl wrote

There is a difference between a simple machine like a coffee maker and an impossibly complex machine that has a human-level of intellect.

The first doesn't deserve rights because its just a mindless tool.

The second deserves rights because it has a mind equal to ours, just in a different non-organic form.

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AwesomeDragon97 t1_j115s7l wrote

Ai algorithms are completely deterministic, meaning if you give them a certain input (seed included) you will get a predictable output. If you say that this is the same as human intelligence then you are arguing that humans have no free will.

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EdvardDashD t1_j11bvja wrote

But humans don't have any free will, we have the perception of free will. The entire universe is deterministic. From the Big Bang onward, physical laws have determined how every atom and sub atomic particle interacted. Those interactions, despite the mind boggling complexity, have all been predictable. To say otherwise is to say that there is some force in the universe not bound to physical laws, which is a matter of faith. Those interactions have resulted in you and I, each of us with a brain that is made of particles that are bound by the same physical laws that have been playing out for billions of years.

If we could reset the universe to the Big Bang and guarantee that its starting conditions were exactly the same, everything would happen exactly as it did before.

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DBCOOPER888 t1_j125ab7 wrote

I mean, I would absolutely argue that humans have no free will, yes. At the end of the day our brains are just very advanced, biological thinking machines that perform actions based on a set of inputs. The arguments that we do not live in a deterministic universe are not compelling to me.

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