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[deleted] t1_j33n18e wrote

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radicalceleryjuice t1_j33vuo5 wrote

I would love to know your sources of optimism! I subscribe to the Future Crunch newsletter, which helps me stay optimistic. I'd love to plug into more sources of solutions.

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[deleted] t1_j33x9dx wrote

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radicalceleryjuice t1_j342zgh wrote

Hmmm.... the first video is pretty good, but I wouldn't say it's reasons to be optimistic. I think more reasons to not give up hope... or to save space for optimism. I agree that doomerism and pessimism is toxic and counterproductive. If all the doomers would just join team yay-future, we'd turn things around much faster!

As far as technological solutions go, I think we absolutely know the way forward. It's social behaviour and political will that are holding us back, but that will probably change quickly if we experience some unfortunate climate shocks, which is likely to happen over the next few years. I'm just hoping those shocks won't be too bad, and the response will be strong!

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strvgglecity t1_j347nrh wrote

People working in climate science are not optimistic, and they are now very vocal about it. Sometimes reality isn't positive. A species can be a negative force on its planet.

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radicalceleryjuice t1_j34f8r5 wrote

Yes, it’s a fine line between doomerism and urgency. Climate change is going to get real very quickly, and hundreds of millions of people could starve. Urgency is critical.

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Kirbyoto t1_j33sah9 wrote

What about it are they going to regret? Does it make one's life worse to say "we need to address systemic issues before they become worse"? Does being optimistic protect you from the consequences of those issues?

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Kirbyoto t1_j33v640 wrote

>I just think that a lot of the issues people speak about will be solved or at the very least will be nullified by future generations

Based on what evidence? Also, why leave it to future generations? Why not acknowledge the problems now and work to fix them?

>I said in my comment above "I think the future is gonna be fantastic" not "Bury your head and pretend things will be good when they are bad."

Based on our current situation, you have to do the latter in order to honestly claim the former. "The future is gonna be fantastic with no work required on our part" is a delusional statement.

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BigRings1994 t1_j3439zl wrote

Bro don’t waste your time, this person is just being disingenuous. Like this is the Futurology Sub and we haven’t even mentioned Fusion! This person can’t be convinced through reason.

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Kirbyoto t1_j37dlxd wrote

This post sounds like it was written by an AI, which is ironic since automation is one of the issues facing humanity.

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Surur t1_j34860y wrote

Ignorance used to be bliss but now the stupid people are very depressed it seems.

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Kirbyoto t1_j37dhpm wrote

>Ignorance used to be bliss

It's very funny for you to say this. The reason "ignorance is bliss" is because you don't know about all the problems people are facing and can instead pretend everything is fine. This is literally still the case. It is the exact problem that you have.

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Surur t1_j37gtzy wrote

Sure doomster. Do you expect to be alive in a year? If no, quit your job and go travelling.

If you expect to be dead in 10 years, stop paying into your pension and retire.

If you expect to die in 20 years, you know, shit happens. It could happen to any of us any day.

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Kirbyoto t1_j37hopg wrote

>Do you expect to be alive in a year?

When people say that there are serious problems facing humanity and you somehow translate that into "I'm going to die in a year" it is obvious you are not actually listening to what your opponents have to say, but are instead just making shit up. I suppose it must be easy to convince yourself you're rational when you argue that way; ignorance really is bliss, after all.

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Surur t1_j37i02h wrote

No, I am making your doomsterism concrete. Concretely, how do you expect to be affected? Or are you just being vaguely threatening?

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Kirbyoto t1_j37dczg wrote

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> I'm not really following what is so bad in the world right now

Well since everyone says that this sub is full of doom and gloom and nobody posts anything positive, a brief examination of the rest of the sub should apparently provide all the answers you need :)

>You also keep saying how no one is going to do anything about it now, who said that?

You did, when you said people shouldn't point out problems and then use a passive voice to say "they will be solved".

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